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1. they, why should atheists worry when a president says they should be stripped of citizenship.

atheists have such a martyr complex!

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105 replies	Author	Time	Post
"Persecuted" Atheists in America Need a New Perspective [View all]	rug	Feb 2012	OP
they, why should atheists worry when a president says they should be stripped of citizenship.	unblock	Feb 2012	#1
And of course blacks and women have valid complaints about lack of representation	dmallind	Feb 2012	#6
I really don't care what the religiously insane think about atheists...	mike_c	Feb 2012	#2
Well if they didn't open their mouths no one would know they were an aetheist.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#3
So we should remain in the closet?	chemp	Feb 2012	#4
WTF.....	movonne	Feb 2012	#5
Damn uppity atheists belong in the back of the bus, eh? Thanks for proving the article false.	dmallind	Feb 2012	#7
Well if feminists didn't open their mouths	dmallind	Feb 2012	#10
A chauvinist does not want women to behave like men ever.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#15
Of course they do!	dmallind	Feb 2012	#41
Nah a chauvinist would likely tell a woman to shut up	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#48
just because the faithful are delusional, a lack of faith must also be delusional?	ChairmanAgnostic	Feb 2012	#11
OMG	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#12
Spoken like a True Christian	mr blur	Feb 2012	#16
Such intolerance and...	rexcat	Feb 2012	#22
Yep the biggest morans don't know what a typo is.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#85
If you think DU is proof of anything in real life,	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#87
LOL you're saying it's all fiction! Maybe you're not real either.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#88
No, but thanks for playing.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#91
I would say that atheists don't always start...	rexcat	Feb 2012	#90
Atheists should ignore discrimination by Christians because Christians are murdered somewhere else?	immoderate	Feb 2012	#8
that last paragraph is nonsensical.	ChairmanAgnostic	Feb 2012	#9
This article is very confused on some crucial issues	LeftishBrit	Feb 2012	#13
Hitchens became a US citizen after 9/11.	Jim__	Feb 2012	#17
Here's a news flash for you	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#20
Here's a flash for you	Jim__	Feb 2012	#25
Where did I say I was "ostracized"?	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#26
Where did I say you said you were being ostracized?	Jim__	Feb 2012	#27
I lost a job due to my atheism	lazarus	Feb 2012	#30
But you were being	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#52
Congratulations on living in a relatively secular part of the country.	jeff47	Feb 2012	#33
won't live in the south ever again.	AlbertCat	Feb 2012	#95
I'm in what one would consider rural NY	jeff47	Feb 2012	#97
Tell Fred Whitehead how to do it.	dmallind	Feb 2012	#42
I've been an atheist all my adult life and I've never been ostracized.	AlbertCat	Feb 2012	#94
Who is 'They'?	LeftishBrit	Feb 2012	#23
The antecedent of "they" is "people."	Jim__	Feb 2012	#24
OK; sorry about the Hitchens mistake, but he is British by origin...	LeftishBrit	Feb 2012	#28
they might be rude to their opponents,	AlbertCat	Feb 2012	#96
many believers feel offended or threatened at the mere notion that god might not exist	unblock	Feb 2012	#14
So how would this go over, I wonder?	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#18
Who is desperate?	rug	Feb 2012	#35
He said who. You have adequate command of the English language.	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 2012	#75
I do. Enough to eschew proxies.	rug	Feb 2012	#76
What a bunch of horseshit	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#19
Yep. The weekly "get over yourselves, atheists" rant...	onager	Feb 2012	#21
I'm sure you and others will apply this same standard to Christians on DU	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#29
Are you saying atheists are persecuted or are not persecuted?	rug	Feb 2012	#31
Not my point.	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#32
Actually, your response to my question is not a response at all.	rug	Feb 2012	#34
It is a response.	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#37
So then you do not think atheists are persecuted in the U.S.	rug	Feb 2012	#39
Never said I did or didn't think it.	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#43
per·se·cute	rug	Feb 2012	#44
Then, yes, there are atheists that are persecuted in the US.	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#45
Like anything else, there are degrees.	rug	Feb 2012	#46
Yes there are	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#47
And right on cue, here come the rationalizations...	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#79
Type here in DU does not make it fact. I have never been asked my religious or lack of	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#51
Where I teach, I don't think I could be out.	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#53
Unbelievable seriously. There are more believers of a higher power that	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#57
You just described a closet Christian teacher.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#58
That is my point. They should not be expressing their views or opinions	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#63
If you append "in the classroom" to your statement, then I'd agree with you.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#74
My eighth grade teacher was an ex stripper.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#77
Oh, well, since everything was hunky-dory in your town it must be true everywhere.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#81
Have you read chicken little?	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#83
What you absolutely refuse to see is that this is about far more than the workplace.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#84
I'm not saying I should be able to stand	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#62
I am an agnostic and i never run into a problem	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#64
So you're saying that agnosticism is a middle ground between theism and atheism?	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#73
Lol. No what I am saying it is an advantageous viewpoint to observe	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#78
But knowledge is a different question than belief. No matter how superior you feel in your position,	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#80
That is hogwash and it is you who needs to get educated on the subject	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#82
I don't see how anything you wrote here contradicts me.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#86
Of course not how could you with tunnel vision and	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#89
Denial can be an ugly thing.	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#92
I did not say you were ugly!	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#93
A personal attack, no matter how clever or thinly veiled, means you cannot support your argument	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#98
You need help seriously.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#99
Oh lookie, ANOTHER personal attack.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#100
Why is it that the most vehement haters can never tell their detractors apart?	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#101
Probably because they are blinded by their rage and desire to be "right" all the time.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#102
Not at all. You are all the same (atheists)	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#103
Reality disagrees with you, but good for you.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#104
Didn't take long for Mr. Hyde to show up there, did it?	darkstar3	Feb 2012	#105
I don't think the FT article said they are 'persecuted'	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#38
No it doesn't. Hence its suggestion for a new perspective.	rug	Feb 2012	#40
The next time my kids come home crying because others were spewing their Christ-based vile at them,	ZombieHorde	Feb 2012	#36
If the religious kids come home crying because others were spewing their religion	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#49
I know Zombie can speak for himself, but where do you get that from?	Goblinmonger	Feb 2012	#54
I teach my kids compassion and reason. nt	ZombieHorde	Feb 2012	#55
Make sure you teach them freedom of religion and freedom from religion.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#56
My wife and I plan on teaching them about many religions.	ZombieHorde	Feb 2012	#59
Very clear your motive it is.	RegieRocker	Feb 2012	#65
One of my communication teachers was teaching about projecting motives this week.	ZombieHorde	Feb 2012	#67
Isn't that the truth.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#68
That is an enormous lapse of logic.	ChadwickHenryWard	Feb 2012	#50
The most famous atheist in America, Madelyn Murray O'Hair, was murdered. Just a few years ago	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#60
She was. By a member of her organization.	rug	Feb 2012	#61
Not exactly. I was involved in the investigation in Texas	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#66
It's pretty well settled David Roland Waters was an atheist.	rug	Feb 2012	#69
It took 6 years for an apathetic Austin police dept. to really look for and find her (1995-2001).	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#70
Fuck this guy, just because atheists aren't killed on a daily basis doesn't mean we have it easy...	Humanist_Activist	Feb 2012	#71
It's a problem. Stay alert. Though? Things are better than ever	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#72

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