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In reply to the discussion: Is there a moral law? [View all]Boojatta
(12,231 posts)14. Maybe it wasn't a good idea for me to introduce the bee dance subtopic.
Do you think this is an objection to my conclusion?
My objection was partly to your reasoning, and partly to my interpretation of something you wrote that now seems to me simply unclear rather than false.
Why does it need a mythic history to be conditioned behavior?
I was thinking that a specific style of bee dance needs to be developed or, to use your terminology, "evolves" over time rather than being handed down from above.
From this thread before I introduced the bee dance subtopic:
How do we know this morality is a function of social conditioning not innate humanity?
Does the phrase "this morality" refer merely to the fact that some individual human being is behaving in a manner that seems to have some moral basis, and is it not a reference to the particulars of the morality? Suppose that we were talking about beliefs regarding the number of moons of Jupiter. If you say that those beliefs are a function of social conditioning, then it sounds as though somebody can choose an arbitrary number and get everybody to accept that it is the number of moons of Jupiter. It is quite a different thing to merely say that there was a progressive development of a science and technology of optics in the past, and that people rely indirectly upon that development, and rely directly upon other people who are alive today, when they acquire any opinion about the number of moons of Jupiter.
It might be amusing to consider that people literally point their telescopes upwards to observe how many moons Jupiter has. In that sense, our knowledge of that number comes from above.
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I think the group can be extended worldwide, but not with the full empathy
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2012
#8
A deontological absolute one? No. A teleology that gives us a species survival edge? Surely.
dmallind
Jan 2012
#10
"How do we know this morality is a function of social conditioning not innate humanity?"
Boojatta
Jan 2012
#11