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In reply to the discussion: The New Atheist Movement Should Care About Poverty [View all]cbayer
(146,218 posts)100. Not sure who you meant to reply to here, but I like your post.
I also like the A+ approach to going beyond simply being disbelievers. To have a purpose would seem to be to give some cohesion to the group. I also like their recognition of the need for diversity. Previous leaders in the atheist community have been too old and too white and too male and too straight, imo. It may have been necessary for them to get things going, but their value is fading.
It is too bad, but not surprising, that the newer organizations are having some internal struggles. Better now than when their practices are more solidified. Having been the minority in well established old boys clubs, I can assure you that it's easier to change early on than later.
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i'm definitely pro-forgive and forget but i'm also cautious about coalitions
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#69
I understand religious privilege and am glad to see that non-believers are gaining ground
cbayer
Feb 2013
#70
well if you like opus but you chose them then maybe i should check it out
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#77
There are three shorts and one feature - all wonderful. The shorts are streaming on Netflix.
cbayer
Feb 2013
#85
It would be a much greater service to humanity to convince the underprivileged religious that their
dimbear
Feb 2013
#10
The greatest service is to convince them their condition is the result of concentrated capital.
rug
Feb 2013
#15
It's hard to see the chain of causation. We mostly know that where there is much religion
dimbear
Feb 2013
#16
Actually, the findings support that there is more religion in places with the most poverty,
cbayer
Feb 2013
#22
Interesting responses. You've heard it all before, it's old news, you know it's true, but
dimbear
Feb 2013
#26
We don't seem to agree on what represents irresponsible reproduction. It is having more
dimbear
Feb 2013
#94
overpopulation was one of the factors leading to the decline of mayan civilization
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#64
Some of the most disenfranchised people in the world get food, shelter, medical care
cbayer
Feb 2013
#39
As I'm sure you understand ever so clearly, the problem is irresponsible reproduction.
dimbear
Feb 2013
#41
I'm trying to concentrate on the factor that's relevant to the OP. What can atheists do best?
dimbear
Feb 2013
#43
I disagree that that is the worst kind of missionaries. The worst kind of missionaries are those
dimbear
Feb 2013
#45
Well then, small numbers give you all the reason you need not to be active in areas where there is
cbayer
Feb 2013
#46
It's your conclusion my only goal is education. I say, responding to the OP, that is the best
dimbear
Feb 2013
#47
Not saying it doesn't happen, but can you give examples of efforts addressing poverty
cbayer
Feb 2013
#50
So, is your complaint with the catholic church or are there other religious organizations
cbayer
Feb 2013
#60
Actually, much as I detest the religiously-dominated political 'pro-life' movement
LeftishBrit
Feb 2013
#91
Okasha, be honest with me. Doesn't that describe practically the whole 3rd world?
dimbear
Feb 2013
#93
They probably wouldn't. But those that would *educate* people away from religion (and
cbayer
Feb 2013
#73
nothing or atheism because there is logic and there is social psychology?
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#71
we combat the notion that religion has a unique and exclusive claim on morality
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#75
What do you think the objectives and mission of these growing non-believer organizations
cbayer
Feb 2013
#23
There's of course nothing wrong, and a lot right, with working for those causes.
Silent3
Feb 2013
#24
all laudable goals but the theological question not being related to the ethical for atheists
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#76
i'm disappointed but not surprised there's not more substance overall on this topic
Phillip McCleod
Feb 2013
#97