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muriel_volestrangler

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47. You can't just go erecting poles on public property for any old reason

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:55 PM

Feb 2013

if you're a private group. You have to have a religious justification for it.

I'm not saying they are mentally ill; I'm saying their religious superstitions are making them behave as if they're mentally ill. They obsess over whether there are wires that may be miles away, before they decide if they can carry a handkerchief in the pocket while walking down the street - but only for one day a week.

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Eruv: The (Nearly) Invisible Borders That Define Religious Jewish Life [View all] rug Feb 2013 OP

I find this stuff fascinating Skittles Feb 2013 #1

So do I. rug Feb 2013 #2

I became interested in Jewish history when I Googled messusah Skittles Feb 2013 #10

Oh, that's a mezuzah. rug Feb 2013 #13

But 'eruv' seems to be designed to get away from that muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #14

The core attribute of property anywhere is the power to exclude. rug Feb 2013 #15

But it's a way to get around the restrictions designed to make them rest muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #16

Or, it's a way of accommodating daily life within the time of Shabbat. rug Feb 2013 #17

I agree with you Meshuga Feb 2013 #18

I have a friend who owns a shop on Venice Beach that sells bathing suits, flip flops, etc. cbayer Feb 2013 #3

I wonder what he does there that day. rug Feb 2013 #4

He does go to synagogues in the morning and has lunch there. cbayer Feb 2013 #5

Wow, I wish I has the discipline to do that. rug Feb 2013 #6

He feels it is his obligation to do it, but I can see how he benefits from it. cbayer Feb 2013 #7

We've had an eruv in my neighborhood for years. virgogal Feb 2013 #8

Is it well known or, as the article puts it, "almost invisible"? rug Feb 2013 #9

Yes,it is "almost invisible". Telephone poles and wires and the like are used. I lived in virgogal Feb 2013 #11

Thanks. rug Feb 2013 #12

I can't remember why, but "The Yiddish Policeman's Union" has big part about an eruv. Jim__ Feb 2013 #19

That looks like a fun read, Zion in Alaska. rug Feb 2013 #21

My Great-Grandfather was an Orthodox Rabbi. pink-o Feb 2013 #52

It's truly absurd, the lengths to which people will go mr blur Feb 2013 #20

It's also really absurd the lengths people will go to attack religious traditions cbayer Feb 2013 #22

mr blur didn't have to any lengths DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #23

It's not absurd to everyone. But it is to him and he wants to make sure everyone knows it. cbayer Feb 2013 #24

I agree with him DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #25

"I may not have been sure about what really did interest me, but I was absolutely sure about what rug Feb 2013 #28

Meaning what, in this context? DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #29

Your disinterest, if not antipathy, does not establish absurdity. rug Feb 2013 #30

I didn't claim that my antipathy makes the practice absurd DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #31

Which, again, is an opinion only based on your disinterest or antipathy. rug Feb 2013 #36

You have no idea what my opinions are based on. DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #39

How does it go? Without evidence, blah, blah, blah. rug Feb 2013 #40

You've just described your own posts. DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #41

Actually, if you scan this thread you'll see plenty of citation. rug Feb 2013 #42

We all have our personal customs, rituals, beliefs, ways of doing things. cbayer Feb 2013 #32

My ways of doing things DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #33

So what? Why would that make yours any less absurd to someone else? cbayer Feb 2013 #34

Because those things I described are absurd DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #35

They are absurd to you. Doesn't matter whether they are absurd to me. cbayer Feb 2013 #37

I repeat, is there nothing you find absurd? DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #38

I admire and respect others as individuals even if I find their practices to be really cbayer Feb 2013 #45

I have no trouble fantasizing various sex practices DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #50

Suit yourself. You can be judgmental or you can be tolerant and affirming. cbayer Feb 2013 #51

They impinge on others in the area by erecting extra poles muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #44

Oh, please, Muriel. Poles?? cbayer Feb 2013 #46

You can't just go erecting poles on public property for any old reason muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #47

Does not sound like a big deal. This country was founded on freedom of religion (and from cbayer Feb 2013 #49

To each his/her own Meshuga Feb 2013 #43

Agree - to each his/her own and thank goodness for diversity. cbayer Feb 2013 #48

I find this fascinating. Lived in Kenmore Sq. (Boston) for a while. It neighbors Brookline, pinto Feb 2013 #26

Thanks for that observation. rug Feb 2013 #27