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trotsky

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86. See you around the campfire! n/t

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Too Simple to Be Wrong: Atheism's Bronze-Age Goat Herder Conceit [View all] cbayer Jan 2013 OP

Goat herders are superb at tending flocks of goats Warpy Jan 2013 #1

Lol, good point. What do you think about his take on Sir William Herschel? cbayer Jan 2013 #3

Herschel is a "missing link" trotsky Jan 2013 #6

A very good, perhaps approaching great, composer dmallind Jan 2013 #12

Did not know that about him and will check it out. cbayer Jan 2013 #17

Well, he is, pretty much Warpy Jan 2013 #31

Though they may be better than average with astronomy NoOneMan Jan 2013 #9

Well, not really, since they generally don't differentiate between near stars Warpy Jan 2013 #14

They will laugh at our rudimentary way of seeing things in 2,000 years, too... cbayer Jan 2013 #25

The best response to this hit piece is in the comments at HuffPo. trotsky Jan 2013 #2

+1000 That's the problem in a nutshell. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #4

They've both worked hand in hand at promoting this notion of progress NoOneMan Jan 2013 #7

"progress is not relevant to me" trotsky Jan 2013 #8

Yep NoOneMan Jan 2013 #10

Does it also break your heart to know that just a couple of generations ago... trotsky Jan 2013 #11

They still don't in most of the world NoOneMan Jan 2013 #13

And science may be able to solve those problems, religion never will. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #15

No, there are limits NoOneMan Jan 2013 #19

Hey brother, I am agreeing with you. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #24

Im just not sure science is necessary for that possibility NoOneMan Jan 2013 #26

As an atheist, I must say were it not for religion to control the people, I doubt we would be here Democratopia Jan 2013 #58

Youre right. We might be exploring other worlds by now. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #71

Of course. trotsky Jan 2013 #16

None of us have wonderful odds in our favor with 400 PPM CO2 concentrations NoOneMan Jan 2013 #22

You must be a riot at parties. n/t trotsky Jan 2013 #34

The irony is that you wouldn't even be aware skepticscott Jan 2013 #38

Would you listen to my "feelings"? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39

What you forecast is chilling and seems inevitable, were it not for the ingenuity and ever-expanding Democratopia Jan 2013 #59

We've had a good idea this was happening for 4 decades NoOneMan Jan 2013 #67

We will have to build machines that will extract the C02 from the atmosphere. Democratopia Jan 2013 #68

Will they run on oil? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #69

WE don't soil our hands with Slavery formercia Jan 2013 #77

What an obnoxious post. rug Jan 2013 #18

No, it isn't "an accurate description of the authors of the Old Testament." okasha Jan 2013 #42

Whatever. My point is, they were not rocket scientists. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #46

By which you mean okasha Jan 2013 #62

That they lacked knowledge of how the world works. They were ignorant. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #65

They knew a great deal more about those things okasha Jan 2013 #81

OK. Whatever you say. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #85

I didn't say they were wiser than "we" are. okasha Jan 2013 #88

Actually, what you said was: trotsky Jan 2013 #89

Sure, those civilizations you mentioned knew some engineering Speck Tater Jan 2013 #90

True,some of these technologies were developed okasha Jan 2013 #91

Well, I guess they were intellectual giants Speck Tater Jan 2013 #92

I suppose you have some reason for continuing to argue okasha Jan 2013 #94

Are you implying that the religion of those civilizations gave them that knowledge? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #93

No. See post 94, above. okasha Jan 2013 #95

I have reread this subthread and am even more confused. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #96

My point was a very simple one. okasha Jan 2013 #97

Ahh, I see. My mistake. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #98

Such as? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #87

+1 Scuba Jan 2013 #5

I think this deserves an Excellent Post(r) Award from cbayer skepticscott Jan 2013 #27

Your decision to replace discussion with this personal vendetta type thing is toxic, imo. pinto Jan 2013 #28

+1 Jim__ Jan 2013 #32

Discussion? Please don't talk to me about "discussion" when it comes to the bayer family skepticscott Jan 2013 #33

Your consistent defense of cbayer, coupled with your eerily similar opinions, posting patterns, trotsky Jan 2013 #35

Curiouser and curiouser. n/t Goblinmonger Jan 2013 #37

A vendetta is exactly what it is. okasha Jan 2013 #40

Hijacking? Oh please. skepticscott Jan 2013 #47

Hmmmmm..no response...interesting. skepticscott Jan 2013 #45

Hi. Back in. Just wanted to speak my piece about civil discourse among members here. Which I did. pinto Jan 2013 #48

In other words, you direct your call for civility in one direction only skepticscott Jan 2013 #50

You win. I'm going to STFU. Sorry I ever stepped in on this. I shouldn't have. pinto Jan 2013 #57

Personal attacks? That's rich skepticscott Jan 2013 #64

See you around the campfire! n/t trotsky Jan 2013 #86

I wish he would have posted his theory rather than the chart. Jim__ Jan 2013 #20

The chart is pretty humorous, though. cbayer Jan 2013 #23

If our 14th century chap were familiar with Euclid's Elements, he would still today be a capable dimbear Jan 2013 #21

Conceit reteachinwi Jan 2013 #29

Auriga reteachinwi Jan 2013 #30

I wouldn't restrict the comparison to science; religion is stagnant compared to politics, too muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #36

The AVERAGE theist's beliefs ARE stuck in "bronze age" thinking. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #41

Oh, goody. okasha Jan 2013 #43

They aren't irrelevant to religious leaders though, and that gets taught cbayer Jan 2013 #49

And how many Christians would you say skepticscott Jan 2013 #51

Anti-intellectual indeed. okasha Jan 2013 #44

More Eliot reteachinwi Jan 2013 #53

Harris talked about 700 years ago; so most of your points are strawmen muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #73

Too parochial to be right. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #52

Well, you've got the talking point down. cbayer Jan 2013 #54

And your belief system is anything but talking points? TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #55

My belief system? My INERRANT reference manual? cbayer Jan 2013 #56

Broad as the one that says ALL NONBELIEVERS are damned... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #60

I would equally challenge anyone who made such a broad statement. cbayer Jan 2013 #61

Thought it was self evident. For all beliefs... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #63

That's true and I am wholly on the side of treating people with different cbayer Jan 2013 #66

Utter horseshit skepticscott Jan 2013 #70

Really? Lets take the poster child of compassion, Mother T. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #72

Lol! Mother Theresa. You have definitely got the playbooks down. cbayer Jan 2013 #74

I barely know who Dawkins is, except from snark like yours. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #75

I would be interested in seeing the posts on DU that cbayer Jan 2013 #76

ONLY path to salvation is to acknowledge and accept Jesus/God. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #82

Again, a very narrow, fundamentalist view of it all. cbayer Jan 2013 #83

Let's suppose a time machine was invented. We then sent an average ... spin Jan 2013 #78

I'm not so sure. Without really understanding the culture into which the person cbayer Jan 2013 #79

If the modern American were found okasha Jan 2013 #84

Just as a single informed point, the Bible was written in the Iron Age. By propagandists. dimbear Jan 2013 #80