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Speck Tater

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13. I was a faithful reader of "Skeptical Inquirer" until...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jan 2013

Sometime in the 1980's (I don't recall exactly, but I recall the experiement was done on an early home computer, so that dates it) they did a "debunking" of Sheldrake. Now I don't think Sheldrake's morphic resonance makes any sense, and I'm pretty confident that it's false, but the "debunking" they did was as follows:

Briefly, if morphic resonance were true, then, Sheldrake claims, once a particular substance has been successfully crystallized for the first time, it would be easier to crystallize that same substance in the future. So some S.I. "scientist" makes the claim that writing data into a memory chip is exactly like crystallization. Therefore, if he wrote a computer program to write the same data into the same computer memory location over and over, that the writing of the data would get faster and faster.

So they wrote a program to write the same data over and over and the program didn't get any faster as they let it run, therefore Sheldrake was falsified.

That was such unbelievable garbage junk science that I couldn't even believe that they had published it. I realized that S.I. is not at all interested in truth. They are only interested in debunking. That is my justification for using the term. Junk science used in the interest of supporting a particular dogma is not following the evidence. It is debunking. Susan Blackmore falls into that category of debunkers. I've read her stuff and it doesn't hold up to objective scrutiny. Her conclusions are made before the fact and her "evidence" cherry picked to "prove" her a priori "conclusions".

An empirical god? [View all] Speck Tater Jan 2013 OP
I don't get the link from NDE to a 'god'. JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2013 #1
I agree with much of what you say and find it very interesting, but I question your humblebum Jan 2013 #2
What if your subjective evidence contradicts everyone else's? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #17
That is why it is called subjective evidence. Just because something is recognized as evidence humblebum Jan 2013 #18
I get that. Im questioning its usefulness in forming belief NoOneMan Jan 2013 #19
There is no objective evidence to empirically prove God or deities. Many people have their humblebum Jan 2013 #20
Interesting and reasonable POV. cbayer Jan 2013 #3
Personally, Speck Tater Jan 2013 #5
My views have changed, and continue to change, over time. cbayer Jan 2013 #6
Memory tama Jan 2013 #22
You might consider a more cultural and literary exegesis of the old texts struggle4progress Jan 2013 #4
An empirical god tama Jan 2013 #7
Or it could be that similarities in NDEs are due to the fact that we all have human brains trotsky Jan 2013 #8
This is true Ligyron Jan 2013 #9
Also common during pilot training... trotsky Jan 2013 #10
I'll have to look up the reference for you, but Speck Tater Jan 2013 #11
Sure, I'd love for you to produce that reference. trotsky Jan 2013 #12
I was a faithful reader of "Skeptical Inquirer" until... Speck Tater Jan 2013 #13
Ah, I see now. trotsky Jan 2013 #14
You know what. I've been down this road too many times already. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #15
Actually, you could easily convince me that what you have to say is worth listening to. trotsky Jan 2013 #16
How do illiterate goat herders write a book? ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #21
Stories were passed down by word of mouth until writing was invented. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #23
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