Ray Giunta, Discredited Pastor, No Longer Appearing At Pentagon Prayer Breakfast

[AlbertCat]

74. Back up your accusations or your argument is toast.

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Why don't you back up yours by adding up all the people ever killed for their religion by a religion and/or in a war with religion telling the sides they are right, starting from the beginning of religions, and see how it stacks up to the USSR. Be sure to subtract the fellow communists the communist dictators killed....or explain how atheism is involved in killing fellow atheists. You seem to assume Commies only killed religious people: one reason why your arguments are not worth taking seriously. The real world is a little more complicated than your regurgitated religious talking points.

Anyway... we are not the only people to wonder about this. This may not be "proof" in itself, but it does site how it came up with the numbers:

I heard a while back that more people had died in the name of Jesus than in the name of Hitler. I’d always wondered if it was true, it seemed perfectly plausible given the persistence and viciousness of the Vatican during the Crusades. Unfortunately, I had found it difficult to find a number of deaths from the Crusades. But, I found in Google Answers, this webpage that chronicles numerous human conflicts and includes a category for religious conflicts. The numbers are hazy, of course, when we’re speaking about conflicts hundreds or thousands of years ago when death tallies were not a priority or of mild interest like they are today.

In short, 809 million people have died in religious wars. That’s nearly a billion people.

Oftentimes, a retort is that secular ideals and Godless Communism have killed many more. It is true that Stalin, among others, slaughtered his own people by the millions during the industrialization of Soviet Russia. By comparison, 209 million have died in the name of Communism. Some 62 million died during World War II, civilian and military, on all sides. Conclusively, more people have died in the name of religion than in the name of Communism or Hitler, or the two combined times two.

from: http://www.bookrateblog.com/2006/07/22/deaths-over-history-religious-vs-nonreligous/



Because the above is only Religious conflicts, be sure to add:

Human sacrifice and ritual suicide

This section lists deaths from the systematic practice of human sacrifice or suicide.
Lowest estimate Highest estimate Description Group Location From To Notes
300,000 1,500,000 Human sacrifice in Aztec culture Aztecs Mexico 14th century 1521 Up to 250,000 sacrificed yearly[191]

13,000 13,000 Human sacrifice Shang dynasty China BC1300 BC1050 Last 250 years of rule
7,941[193] 7,941 Ritual suicides Sati Bengal, India 1815 1828
3,912 3,912 Kamikaze suicide pilots Imperial Japanese AF Pacific theatre 1944 1945
913 913 Jonestown murder-suicide The Peoples Temple cult Jonestown Nov 18, 1978 Nov 19, 1978 The event was the largest loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the September 11, 2001 attacks.

I don't want to format the chart... so if you want to see the actual chart it is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll
a little more than halfway down the page.


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