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In reply to the discussion: Creation Science at its best [View all]intaglio
(8,170 posts)145. You demonstrate absolute ignorance about the Sciences and Velikovski
Do you have a comprehension problem?
I did not raise "Occam" only the fact that theories are parsimonious which, I quote
This last is sometimes called "Occam's Razor"
I did not raise it as an objection to the nonsense peddled by Velikovsky although, of course it can be because there is so much in that fools work that depends upon unevidenced mechanisms; technically, a multiplication of entities.
Now let us take apart your nonsensical post item by item.
The evidence for the continental drift is one dimensional...are the continents drifting apart.
I expressly said the continental drift was a false hypothesis, the fact you continue to use that name just emphasises your ignorance and word blindness. The currently the theory of Plate Tectonics is evidenced by surface matching, deep borehole samples, direct measurement of vertical and horizontal movement, paleo-magnetic evidence and seismic imaging of the interior of the earth; these measurements are 3 dimensional both literally and figuratively.
For the flood it is multidimensional cause evidence of a flood can be anywhere and in far different ways...
What evidence? Please identify the sedimentary layer or sequence of layers you claim are the result of the Flood. Identify where they are contiguous over the surface of the earth. Please identify what other evidence you have, such as erosion features of similar magnitude to the Grand Canyon dating to the same time. Please identify the evidence for a mass extinction of plants (BTW saying "coal" is not good enough, there are multiple layers of coal all dating to different periods)
But as to Worlds in Collisions observations did support his theory
Wrong, no observation has been made of the anti-gravitic force essential to maintain the orbital variations required by WiC. There has also been no observation of the Saturn sized remnant required to explain the flood.
for instance he predicted that Venus was a relative new planet cause it had been blasted off of Jupiter by a cataclysmic even
Except that the known chemistry of Venus does not in any respect match the chemistry of Jupiter and also there is no evidence that Venus is a "new" planet.
and the probes that we sent to Venus confirmed that with a surface temperature of over 900 degrees and a very dense atmosphere of a composition he predicted
Except the atmospheric composition of Venus was known and the surface temperature estimated before WiC. It is true that pulp SF authors chose to ignore that evidence but they were writing stories that required a habitable Venus.
That does not prove his theory...but it IS evidence
Finally one statement that is correct except the inference you derive from it is false. What you have quoted does not prove Velikovsky's assertions because they are all falsehoods. Additionally Velikovsky never produced a "theory"; he produced, at best, a hypothesis that was mathematically and physically unsound.
I never said god did anything like the flood....the mechanism was probably cosmic or dynamic and catastrophic
And after you showed your stunning foolishness in supporting Velikovsky I never said that you did, but I did compare your blind faith in a non-existent physical force with the usual excuse of deluge believers i.e. "Goddidit"
And the statement that anti gravity does not exist is really something....if there is gravity there must be anti gravity ...anti just means not....and there is nothing with out the not.
Absence of gravity is not anti-gravity. For somebody who claims to believe WiC you seem oblivious to the mechanism of action that was required for the stupid orbital and planetary interactions proposed by your psychiatrist guru. The absolute requirement is for a force generated by electrons that is powerful enough to counter gravity on planetary scales. This was an opposing force to gravity i.e. anti-gravity. If you want to know the consequences of such a force read the "Cities in Flight" series by James Blish.
Finally Flat earth was never an accepted scientific consensus, at best it was considered a philosophical ideal by ancient cultures, or possible a model that worked on the local scales
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Hmmph! Nobody here seems to believe in antediluvian plushies, simply because
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#82
Yes, I'd have to say that some of us DID evolve (or not evolve) from plushies......
HuskiesHowls
Nov 2012
#13
They "selective vision ..." They also have the adrenaline rush from the hate which unites them.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#7
To paraphrase Cicero, how can they pass one another on the street without laughing out loud?
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#6
I just have to step in here and say...you have not exhibited one iota of critical thinking.
Walk away
Dec 2012
#202
Critical thinking includes a commitment to using reason in the formulation of beliefs.
Walk away
Dec 2012
#207
So if you have no evidence to support that hypothesis, why do you hold it to be true?
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#99
What evidence goes unseen by the public? Produce it if it exists, zeemlike.
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#104
You are proclaiming you are privy to secret evidence that we have not seen
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#109
lack of credible evidence is not an improvement for the global flood hypothesis
Phillip McCleod
Nov 2012
#121
"Well I don't know and don't give it much thought". Yes, that seems apparent.
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#122
Does any of the "evidence" you have put forward pass the test of the scientific method?
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#134
Your continued misrepresentation and mischaracterization of everything I post shows you are playing
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#140
Except that the only thing that said the flood existed is the Bible
Fortinbras Armstrong
Nov 2012
#84
Ahh, I see where the disconnect is! Science has not claimed that there was not a world-wide flood!
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#136
Saying "there is no evidence" is not the same as proving a negative
Fortinbras Armstrong
Nov 2012
#143
Basically you are saying the experts shouldn't be consulted, do you diagnose yourself...
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2012
#77
I was looking up similar evidence, that points to 1 year as well, to reach maturity....
Humanist_Activist
Nov 2012
#79
It would help your case if you can point to someone else referring to this 'hundreds of feet thick'
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#74
Not really sure just what this is supposed to tell us regarding your world-wide flood hypothesis.
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#92
I don't get the feeling that zeemlike is impressed at all by these facts. Not even a little bit.
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#107
Or would have known of the over-one-and-a-half-million species of insects, or...
mr blur
Nov 2012
#36
Translation: I just had my ass handed to me so I will bloviate for a bit then slink off in a huff.
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#147
You should have just walked away when you had the chance. But you must be a glutton for punishment.
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#149
"someone who deliberately posts ridiculous nonsense to get a rise out of people?
zeemike
Dec 2012
#174
If your intent was to learn, you would have stopped plastering nonsense after nonsense...
cleanhippie
Dec 2012
#200
The tidal force from an object is inversely proportional to the cube of distance
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2012
#192
Never called you a coward, but if you feel you are one, that is your problem.
cleanhippie
Dec 2012
#160
More on "Creation science is not only bad science, it is also bad theology."
Fortinbras Armstrong
Nov 2012
#57
Why would a flying opossum evolve *into* something that can't cross the road? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2012
#20
Don't think anybody really knows, but the main competitors would be ants, termites,
dimbear
Nov 2012
#69
None of them appear to be anywhere near outweighing all the other put together
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#72