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Cleita

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40. They do worry about the homeless but they are overwhelmed with it in Santa Monica.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
Nov 2012

They used to serve free lunches for the homeless and elderly seniors on the lawn at City Hall, but the usual suspects complained about it for the same reason, using a public lawn by religious groups, blah, blah and they had to stop.

Are they at this again? Cleita Nov 2012 #1
The ban was against everyone. I guess the party poopers win again. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #2
Yeah, darn those party poopers skepticscott Nov 2012 #4
Then why aren't they working for getting the religious right out of our government Cleita Nov 2012 #11
Who's "they"? skepticscott Nov 2012 #13
The people that started this to begin with. Cleita Nov 2012 #14
Actually the atheists and Jews were fine with the lottery system. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #16
This started with an anti-Christian group. I was living there when it first came up. The display had Cleita Nov 2012 #17
So you're Otta here? Or more exactly incapable of coming up with Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #20
Guess she's not skepticscott Nov 2012 #90
As already explained skepticscott Nov 2012 #21
Oh, you're blaming the atheists? skepticscott Nov 2012 #22
Private vs Public lands JimDandy Nov 2012 #61
The Third Street Mall. My bad. I meant the Third Street Promenade that is city owned. Cleita Nov 2012 #64
As an equally long resident of S.M. I am so GLAD they finally did away with those sucky, awful--- Moonwalk Nov 2012 #8
Hyperbole much? They aren't big enough to block a view of the ocean. Cleita Nov 2012 #9
Hyperbole much yourself? Like taking care of this problem stopped anyone... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #19
For a few weeks out of the year, yes. Cleita Nov 2012 #23
Well, and slavery used to be traditional New Orleans skepticscott Nov 2012 #24
Nice straw man. Cleita Nov 2012 #25
Not the point skepticscott Nov 2012 #26
Yes, here we have the legal vs. moral argument. Cleita Nov 2012 #47
The people who wrote the Constitution knew skepticscott Nov 2012 #73
Just a note. I'm not trying to bolster anything or even argue. Cleita Nov 2012 #75
Yes, you are skepticscott Nov 2012 #89
Whatever you say scott. Cleita Nov 2012 #91
As noted skepticscott Nov 2012 #92
Sure, but in a message board you waste your own time with pap. Cleita Nov 2012 #93
yuppies < working class?? CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #55
Yep, it happened and to deny it for political correctness is to deny Cleita Nov 2012 #58
The working class are living on the streets BECAUSE the yuppies took their houses? CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #66
I got used to it. I moved out. Cleita Nov 2012 #67
"I hope all you yuppies enjoy the little Hell you created." Come on, you are better than this. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #69
Okay, look at this little webpage about activities for Christmas in Cleita Nov 2012 #72
Intentionally or unintentionally, you mischarachterized what I stated. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #76
I did understand what you said and thank you for putting a phrase to it, Cleita Nov 2012 #78
"when another class of people moved in and took over what was ours." cleanhippie Nov 2012 #80
I wish had the words to express, but then I would be a writer and Cleita Nov 2012 #83
+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #62
They do. This is a traditional thing that has gone on for decades. It hurts no Cleita Nov 2012 #65
*Sigh* cleanhippie Nov 2012 #77
If you don't know what privilege means then I can't show you what happened. Cleita Nov 2012 #79
I think I see where the confusion lies. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #81
It maybe is the symbol. Cleita Nov 2012 #84
WTF?!? trotsky Nov 2012 #97
Business districts consist of lots of PRIVATE property. Government kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #85
Well, Christmas displays are being allowed on government property Cleita Nov 2012 #86
Yeah, fucking atheists Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #28
If they are going to get all pissed about First Amendments church and state separation, there Cleita Nov 2012 #31
Certainly pissed them off, though, didn't it. Goblinmonger Nov 2012 #37
I left SM twenty years ago when this first started becoming an issue. Cleita Nov 2012 #39
I think it's for the best. The whole fiasco last year was pretty silly, cbayer Nov 2012 #3
Churches own boatloads of property for nativity scenes. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #5
I'd assume lots of private individuals have lawns and windows, too, if displays matter to them struggle4progress Nov 2012 #6
Absolutely. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #7
Not in Santa Monica unless you live north of Montana. n/t Cleita Nov 2012 #10
Well, why block everyone's view of the ocean anyway... polichick Nov 2012 #12
They aren't blocking anything. They aren't big enough and they face Ocean Avenue not the beach. Cleita Nov 2012 #15
You can always see between the trees... polichick Nov 2012 #33
My view seems a bit unpopular here, but I really think Cleita Nov 2012 #34
Sorry, I was raised Christian but I'm as sick of them as I am of... polichick Nov 2012 #35
Me too and I have no use for dogma, but Cleita Nov 2012 #36
I enjoy the stories too, of all cultures and religions, but... polichick Nov 2012 #38
They do worry about the homeless but they are overwhelmed with it in Santa Monica. Cleita Nov 2012 #40
When the power went out in NYC with Hurricane Sandy... polichick Nov 2012 #42
The reason this public space was chosen is that it (City Hall) Cleita Nov 2012 #44
I used to help feed the homeless in Santa Monica at City Hall as part of a church group. kwassa Nov 2012 #70
Yes, it had a lot going for it. Cleita Nov 2012 #71
Just another note about the Oar House. Cleita Nov 2012 #74
I've been to McGinty's kwassa Nov 2012 #94
All gone probably now. Cleita Nov 2012 #95
Damn. Even Fox News managed to report this part... onager Nov 2012 #18
Good riddance edhopper Nov 2012 #27
It's a tradition that harms no one. It would be different if there were live Cleita Nov 2012 #32
But it's still using public resources to promote a religion. trotsky Nov 2012 #41
How are they promoting religion? They are telling a story that could Cleita Nov 2012 #43
If you are seriously going to argue that a creche doesn't promote Christianity... trotsky Nov 2012 #45
Since religion was not promoted by the creches in the decades before there was Cleita Nov 2012 #46
Actually, that's the point. It *was* being promoted from the very first time one was put up. trotsky Nov 2012 #51
But as part of the commons, we are allowed to do things by permit on public lands. Cleita Nov 2012 #53
Of course you're allowed to do things. trotsky Nov 2012 #60
So what about the Aryan Nation when they have a march through Cleita Nov 2012 #63
Did you ever study this Supreme Court case in school? trotsky Nov 2012 #96
They WERE allowed to put it up! And other groups were too! So many that they started a lottery.. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #98
Good. Taverner Nov 2012 #29
I also missed the part where Christians are excluded from the nation, Cleita Nov 2012 #48
Some of us have families you know... Taverner Nov 2012 #49
I'm with you. They shouldn't do that to you. Cleita Nov 2012 #52
I also don't want to de-convert anyone either Taverner Nov 2012 #54
Yes, and I find the Bible no different than most mythology. It all has Cleita Nov 2012 #57
OK...so I read through most all of this thread sdfernando Nov 2012 #59
It's too bad they aren't coming back. Cleita Nov 2012 #68
The government has no business in Religion. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #30
This atheist thanks you for your patriotism Taverner Nov 2012 #50
"ban all private unattended displays"...? regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #56
I was there in September, where were are all the homeless people going doc03 Nov 2012 #82
The park, the beach and other places. My back alley was full of them before we left. Cleita Nov 2012 #87
Gotta give them credit they are smart enough to move to doc03 Nov 2012 #88
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