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99. I think we need a capital Y at the end too

Reply to trotsky (Reply #85)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:23 PM

Oct 2012

It has to be a MysterY, right? Or can it just be a MyStErY?

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Why is there evil and suffering? [View all] Thats my opinion Oct 2012 OP

Love the phrase mr_hat Oct 2012 #1

agreed. life sucks because we have free will. it can bebetter if we roguevalley Oct 2012 #17

God is what we invoke at the limits of our knowledge... DreamGypsy Oct 2012 #2

Because god is quite the bastard. mysuzuki2 Oct 2012 #3

Hmmm. Fix The Stupid Oct 2012 #4

I like this very much! Look at the universe; how can ANY words encompass that event? It IS its own patrice Oct 2012 #5

In th past GOD filled in the empty places in knowledge of the universe... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #6

Today's theology does not deny science, but celebrates it. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #7

It's not that the mind is closed Oregonian Oct 2012 #9

In any of the DU forums or groups, Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #20

Were you to produce rrneck Oct 2012 #24

The problem he has Oregonian Oct 2012 #33

Reads like new age word salad to me. rrneck Oct 2012 #38

"the "insights" you speak of spark squarely from the anus of the "theologians"" cleanhippie Oct 2012 #27

There was far more snark in your post Oregonian Oct 2012 #32

We can see the emperor has no clothes. trotsky Oct 2012 #60

Best. Post. Ever. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #30

Thanks, brother! n/t Oregonian Oct 2012 #31

ThatsMyOpinion usually pokes his head out and posts something like this every week or so. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #34

I have posted there some Oregonian Oct 2012 #35

You wanna see dead? Have a look at the Christian Liberals & Progressive People of Faith group. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #36

Ha ha, well played Oregonian Oct 2012 #37

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #46

As usual your post... rexcat Oct 2012 #55

Chalk one up for you kitten! Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #56

It will take a lot more... rexcat Oct 2012 #57

Precious, you need to learn the difference between blocking and ignoring. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #58

I would consider "precious" as a derogatory remark... rexcat Oct 2012 #59

I celebrate what you have done with your life. nt Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #63

I am not looking for accolades... rexcat Oct 2012 #65

Do you celebrate the fact that he did those things sans religion? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #90

He doesn't give a shit, rexcat. His passive-aggressiveness is like the stripe on a skunks back. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #73

Agreed... rexcat Oct 2012 #74

And a jury felt the same way, as his post got hidden above. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #89

I can say I did not alert that one... rexcat Oct 2012 #96

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith Oct 2012 #80

Thanks, looks like a jury agreed that his passive-aggressive posts are not worthy of DU. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #86

Einstein had insights ... GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #44

Einstein had insights ... AlbertCat Oct 2012 #47

Yes, it really is that the mind is closed. humblebum Oct 2012 #70

Thank you. whathehell Oct 2012 #129

Sheesh, could you possibly be any more arrogant and self-centered? skepticscott Oct 2012 #15

Yes, he could be a radical atheist. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #71

Which theology? Baptist Theology? Dominionist Theology? Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #134

The narrative myths that fit things together were the function of the pluraltheistic religions, with patrice Oct 2012 #131

So.....atheism? Oregonian Oct 2012 #8

"Modern theology is rapidly getting rid of this sky wizard notion of God" trotsky Oct 2012 #10

He just admitted he is an atheist. rrneck Oct 2012 #25

True, because changing your narrative/perspective does not necessarily change the nature of the patrice Oct 2012 #82

Yep. rrneck Oct 2012 #88

I think you guys are on to something here. TMO is essentially "coming out" cleanhippie Oct 2012 #91

Well said. Very well said! patrice Oct 2012 #92

That has got to be one of the silliest statements ever Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #28

You are wrong. trotsky Oct 2012 #40

I think you have misread his statement. Please read it again. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #42

You're right, I misread it. My apologies Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #103

I don't disagree. rrneck Oct 2012 #11

Of course. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #21

Theology isn't changing anything but the narrative. rrneck Oct 2012 #22

God is best understood as a verb, not a noun. What's the past tense? n/t dimbear Oct 2012 #12

Gad! skepticscott Oct 2012 #14

I like it. dimbear Oct 2012 #16

Theologians don't have "insights" skepticscott Oct 2012 #13

Nail on the head. n/t trotsky Oct 2012 #18

Thus speaks someone who does not understand theology Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #29

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #39

Is there an argument in there anywhere? skepticscott Oct 2012 #51

Science doesn't give us all the understanding we have QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #53

The fact that science can't answer ALL questions skepticscott Oct 2012 #62

I doubt your skepticism QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #66

As mentioned, Christian theology has had skepticscott Oct 2012 #68

Shows you how to be a righteous dude, among other things? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #69

Well, I was expecting someone to say something intelligent skepticscott Oct 2012 #94

You do know that science and ethics are different disciplines, right? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #97

The entire point is skepticscott Oct 2012 #98

Atheism is not a conclusion, it is a preference QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #102

Atheism reflects a preference skepticscott Oct 2012 #106

Atheism is the rejection of theism. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #138

Sam Harris makes an excellent case in The Moral Landscape that counters you. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #137

Matthew 7:6 Leontius Oct 2012 #19

The question often arises as to where one can find the seat of this theology,. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #64

Do those all deny the resurrection, then? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #75

The resurrection is still very important. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #79

The story they were committed to was the resurrection muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #84

Just slap a capital M on Mystery and call it done. n/t trotsky Oct 2012 #85

I think we need a capital Y at the end too skepticscott Oct 2012 #99

You raised a couple of very good issues. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #110

Was Paul even there?? Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #112

No, Paul never met or saw Jesus. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #114

Doing what exactly? Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #23

I didn't know you were an atheist. rrneck Oct 2012 #26

Word salad. No thanks, I've eaten. mr blur Oct 2012 #41

I would love to have an intelligent conversation about religion. Can you kindly explain what the prefunk Oct 2012 #43

Put aside your prejudices, and try reading the original post nt Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #49

Try not being so condescending, please. I did read the OP, and found it ambiguous. prefunk Oct 2012 #93

That like asking the pope skepticscott Oct 2012 #100

Perhaps these are not new insights, but the recapulation of what we have known for a long time. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #109

So if there are NOT any "amazing new insights", just what is it you are talking about? prefunk Oct 2012 #119

It is a religion skepticscott Oct 2012 #121

All religions only point. None of them encapsulate the truth, the whole truth, Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #122

So what does that have to do with organized religion and it's charachters? prefunk Oct 2012 #123

They are all efforts to point to that which is beyond all of them. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #124

So lets go back to these new insights. prefunk Oct 2012 #125

Hello? Still there? prefunk Oct 2012 #139

Anyone home? prefunk Oct 2012 #140

"Not new insights"? skepticscott Oct 2012 #120

Is it safe to assume that you will not be answering my call for clarification? prefunk Oct 2012 #107

As predicted skepticscott Oct 2012 #108

See 109--and please be more specific about your question and I'll try to respond. nt Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #113

Nature ... GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #45

Perhaps the best metaphor for the earth is "Mother." An acient use. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #81

Why is there evil and suffering? AlbertCat Oct 2012 #48

What if thinking the world is "evil" creates more "evil"? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #50

Fear and Greed thelordofhell Oct 2012 #52

A partial answer okasha Oct 2012 #54

If a god exists... trotsky Oct 2012 #61

Just one? That's easy QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #67

Um, please read the question again. trotsky Oct 2012 #72

Science is a superior means of obtaining knowledge okasha Oct 2012 #76

So you don't have an example. trotsky Oct 2012 #83

Were you expecting otherwise skepticscott Oct 2012 #87

Of course not. trotsky Oct 2012 #95

Just letting you have the low road to yourself, trots. okasha Oct 2012 #104

There you go. trotsky Oct 2012 #105

I'm not certain whether evil insists independently or whether it's the absence of good. no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #77

Something like an energy field created by all living things? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #78

I'm sure TMO and his gang skepticscott Oct 2012 #101

From your post you are saying that most religions are bunk Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #111

No, please read 109 nt Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #115

I now have read post #109 Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #116

I dislike the term "pagan." It has a pejortive ring. Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #117

Christian religions used that term and heathens for many years Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #118

Ego orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #126

There isn't evil, and suffering is an emotion brought on by ego TransitJohn Oct 2012 #127

How about this theory... Speck Tater Oct 2012 #128

You made me think of monads, patrice Oct 2012 #132

That second link is very interesting Speck Tater Oct 2012 #135

I really only have a Philosophy 101 acquaintence with Leibniz, but his was one of the thoughts patrice Oct 2012 #136

Maybe someday, someone will bring something new to a discussion about religion, but I doubt it. rogrot Oct 2012 #130

The preacher in Ecclesiastes had it right: there's nothing new under the sun. dimbear Oct 2012 #133