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I'm having trouble deciding what is dumber LARED Sep 2012 #1
That was exactly my thought after reading this. cbayer Sep 2012 #7
One end threatens death, the other doesn't. trotsky Sep 2012 #20
Yeah, and drug pushers aren't responsible for the crimes committed for & with their motivators. nt patrice Sep 2012 #26
That's a lovely red herring. trotsky Sep 2012 #31
Oh you're free to do so alright, but let's just call it what it is, self-aggrandizing bullshit, not patrice Sep 2012 #33
Who the hell said people couldn't believe what they want? trotsky Sep 2012 #34
Read OP you are supporting scorn & contempt for those who think/believe differently from you.nt patrice Sep 2012 #36
So? trotsky Sep 2012 #38
You are the one who equated having religious ideas with murder. OP lumped all religion together & patrice Sep 2012 #40
I did no such thing. trotsky Sep 2012 #49
OP advocates contempt for religion & you equate the religious with murderers. nt patrice Sep 2012 #37
No, cbayer equated that author with people who want to murder others for blasphemy. trotsky Sep 2012 #39
Perhaps I mis-understood. What does #20 mean? patrice Sep 2012 #42
cbayer is equating the "extremism" of a person who says blasphemy is to be encouraged... trotsky Sep 2012 #48
So then, is strong criticism of radical atheism a form of pseudo-blasphemy? nt humblebum Sep 2012 #64
See post 5. And while you're at it... 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #9
Not sure I understand your point. but there is a world of difference between LARED Sep 2012 #12
"SUPPOSED" right? 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #17
I was not addressing the aforementioned right. LARED Sep 2012 #71
You applied an adjective to a noun, but were not addressing the noun. Uh-huh. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #76
You don't believe me? LARED Sep 2012 #78
You didn't answer the question. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #79
I did answer your question, that you don't like my answer is not my problem. LARED Sep 2012 #83
Still waiting for clarification on that "supposed." 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #54
Still waiting. Why "supposed?" 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #68
Translation of continued silence skepticscott Sep 2012 #69
Back to the ironic I see. LARED Sep 2012 #70
Back to more lame, passive-aggressive dodging, I see skepticscott Sep 2012 #72
Not passive aggressive, just pointing out the obvious. nt LARED Sep 2012 #77
Really? A Tie. edhopper Sep 2012 #16
LARED and cbayer are engaging in the same rhetorical dishonesty. trotsky Sep 2012 #19
It is triangulation, but you are are quite wrong about my position LARED Sep 2012 #46
So what other ideas do you think we should be off-limits from criticizing? trotsky Sep 2012 #47
When did I say anything was off limits to criticism? LARED Sep 2012 #53
You're just arbitrarily drawing lines then. trotsky Sep 2012 #55
No, but saying blasphemy is a "civic duty" and "moral obligation" is bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #74
Define bigotry, then demonstrate why your claim is true. n/t trotsky Sep 2012 #84
Huh? LARED Sep 2012 #82
I'm glad you were able to clear that up. trotsky Sep 2012 #85
Blasphemy is not LARED Sep 2012 #89
So is it your position that one can be bigoted against ideas? trotsky Sep 2012 #91
That's kind of mean-tempered... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #2
Aside from this being from examiner.com (with a link to a facebook page), it poses a poor question. rug Sep 2012 #3
+1 Tiresome indeed, because it makes absolutist claims in the name of "rationalism" that rationalism patrice Sep 2012 #28
I disagree. Sort of. Blasphemy is not a duty, but it damn sure is a right. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #4
A right that's never exercised out of fear is no right. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #5
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #6
Anti-theist jerkwaddery. The author is no better than those he condemns. cbayer Sep 2012 #8
"No better"? Really? trotsky Sep 2012 #11
So you support censorship and are an enemy of Enlightenment values? Odin2005 Sep 2012 #14
Say what? No, I just think the guy is a bigoted, elitist jerk. cbayer Sep 2012 #15
Yet he threatens no one. trotsky Sep 2012 #18
Fine, but that makes him no less of a bigot. Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #75
Respect has to be earned skepticscott Sep 2012 #80
How? trotsky Sep 2012 #86
I'm not trying to silence anyone Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #97
So you admit your "quote" isn't really a quote... trotsky Oct 2012 #107
Which part of "look in the thread title" do you have difficulty understanding Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #109
Nice personal attacks. trotsky Oct 2012 #114
I alerted the post Oregonian Oct 2012 #116
Doesn't surprise me. trotsky Oct 2012 #117
Meanwhile Oregonian Oct 2012 #118
Or as Skinner is on record as saying, "You take your chances." trotsky Oct 2012 #119
Ironic you call someone stupid Oregonian Oct 2012 #115
Isn't Mary Madelene married to James Caravelle? n/t/n (no text necessary) socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #30
I can't see where the author is advocating execution of religious believers. MineralMan Sep 2012 #21
He makes no distinction between extremists and all the other religious people in the world. cbayer Sep 2012 #22
The difference is in whether there are laws against things. MineralMan Sep 2012 #23
I wasn't commenting on the issue of blasphemy at all. cbayer Sep 2012 #24
But I was commenting on the subject of the thread. MineralMan Sep 2012 #25
I was commenting on the 6th and 7th words in the subject. cbayer Sep 2012 #27
You clearly don't understand what the word "bigot" means. trotsky Sep 2012 #32
Allowing and encouraging blasphemy might be a civic duty Oregonian Sep 2012 #10
"Respect the religious, but ridicule the religion." - ridicule goes farther than mere criticism. humblebum Sep 2012 #65
Ridicule is the only response Oregonian Oct 2012 #96
Ridiculing isn't difficult. Any bully can do that. Open, respectful and honest debate is humblebum Oct 2012 #98
It's much more difficult with someone like you Oregonian Oct 2012 #101
"refuses to recognize simple facts" - at least I can back up my facts and don't humblebum Oct 2012 #103
Nah, you just can't remember who the Founding Fathers are Oregonian Oct 2012 #111
Like I said, I can back up my facts. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #124
These pro-censorship nuts are trying to roll back the Enlightenment. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #13
My goodness, how very authoritarian of you, practically Tea Party. Censoring "pro-censorship" is patrice Sep 2012 #35
Your post makes no sense. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #41
One of the biggest mistakes made about postmodernism is that it isn't as nihilistic as some people patrice Sep 2012 #43
In short, I'm saying you don't NEED The Enlightenment to know empathy & friendliness are universal patrice Sep 2012 #44
Utter unmitigated bullshit. nt patrice Sep 2012 #29
Well, you would know. mr blur Sep 2012 #45
No. But I do get tired of games, though, and that's why I'm not playing today, but don't worry, patrice Sep 2012 #50
Of course you and your ilk skepticscott Sep 2012 #87
We have an obligation to move people out of the stone ages. on point Sep 2012 #51
Agreed it is only when there are folks willing to challenege authority gopiscrap Sep 2012 #52
Would you agree that ridicule and contempt for non-religion is just as acceptable? Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #56
False-equivalency police? Oregonian Sep 2012 #57
Exhibit 1. rug Sep 2012 #58
Care to expound? Oregonian Sep 2012 #61
Bring it on. trotsky Sep 2012 #59
Precisely Oregonian Sep 2012 #60
If you spend much time on "religion" Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #62
That's kind of a smokescreen for Oregonian Sep 2012 #63
You just will not see on"religion" anyone referring to atheism as"insanity." Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #66
No, usually what we see is people making outlandish claims like... trotsky Sep 2012 #67
What shall we converse about? Oregonian Oct 2012 #92
If you only had the slightest understanding of Biblical scholarship! Thats my opinion Oct 2012 #94
I'm well aware of the "allegorical" truths Oregonian Oct 2012 #95
It's what he does skepticscott Oct 2012 #102
Would you agree that ridicule and contempt for evolutionary science skepticscott Sep 2012 #73
You really, really need to read this article. This is no snark. Click on this link and read. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #81
Wonder if this counts as blasphemy. onager Sep 2012 #88
This can be self defeating. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #90
In my experience Oregonian Oct 2012 #93
Your brand of radical atheism has been around for many decades. humblebum Oct 2012 #99
I don't think you know what bigotry means Oregonian Oct 2012 #100
Oh, but you're doing a such great job at teaching me what bigotry is all about. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #104
Apparently not good enough Oregonian Oct 2012 #105
Well good. Then I will attack some of your ideas and characterize them with choice humblebum Oct 2012 #106
Take your best shot, punk Oregonian Oct 2012 #110
It's not necessary to get that low to debate a point. If your arguments cannot humblebum Oct 2012 #123
VERY astute QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #108
It certainly doesn't help you make any kind of alliance with them. cbayer Oct 2012 #112
So sacrifice your principles, suck up to a lie, and kiss ass Oregonian Oct 2012 #113
You had better go spread the word in all the DU groups. trotsky Oct 2012 #120
I wonder how many Republicans read DU. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2012 #121
Given how much this board is quoted elsewhere, it would seem to be a lot. n/t trotsky Oct 2012 #122
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