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In the discussion thread: It is OK to try and be like Jesus [View all]

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:12 AM

longship (17,589 posts)

3. Which fucking Jesus?

The Jesus of The Sermon on the Mount? The Jesus of Paul... I mean Saul... whoever? Of his alleged brother James? How about the powerless wimp in Mark who couldn't perform his magic in his home town, and whose apostles never seemed to catch on what he was about?

Or, my favorite, the first century version of Timothy Leary, John, the self-named Divine and his LSD trip entitled Revelation.

All portray different people. So, when somebody asks me WWJD, I respond, "Which Jesus?"

My only take away is that this has all the hallmarks of a fictional character. I cannot prove it, but I don't have to. There is no consistent history of him in the Bible and there is absolutely no history of him outside the Bible.

My favorite is that he was allegedly born in Betlehem, but was allegedly from Nazarreth, which didn't even exist when he was born.

Gotta love it. It's all made up stuff.

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76 replies	Author	Time	Post
It is OK to try and be like Jesus [View all]	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	OP
and Jesus was a liberal ..................	Angry Dragon	Aug 2012	#1
He was so dedicated to his life that he was willing to be crucified for what he believed.	Lint Head	Aug 2012	#2
Which fucking Jesus?	longship	Aug 2012	#3
You must be right on this because everyone you know is one dimensional aren't they?	Leontius	Aug 2012	#29
A complex being is one who is flawed, otherwise they are one-dimensional, is Jesus flawed? n/t	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#43
If you really believe that then I'm sorry for your life experience.	Leontius	Aug 2012	#64
What life experience, we are talking about characters in books here...	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#66
Of course he was flawed. Doesn't mean he wasn't a cool guy.	Starboard Tack	Aug 2012	#72
Meh! I was merely ridiculing people who claim absolute knowledge from the Bible. nt	longship	Aug 2012	#74
Whichever suits your taste.	Starboard Tack	Aug 2012	#71
I agree, although I am an atheist.	longship	Aug 2012	#73
By mockery	skepticscott	Aug 2012	#75
Technically that probably falls under the category "derision."	trotsky	Aug 2012	#76
just so you know	Skittles	Aug 2012	#4
Great point, Skittles.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#7
Ok	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#15
guide post = crutch	Skittles	Aug 2012	#19
Experience... wisdom... from reading history	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#20
I care about the poor and sick, and DO something about it	Skittles	Aug 2012	#21
There you go again	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#22
LOL	Skittles	Aug 2012	#32
Also, you don't have to be religious to follow some of Jesus's teachings.	cbayer	Aug 2012	#28
How are they Jesus' teachings when they predate the time in which he allegedly lived?	trotsky	Aug 2012	#31
THANK YOU	Skittles	Aug 2012	#33
Wow, thank you master Christian, for being that magnanimous, I feel so privileged!	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#45
What in the world are you going on about.	cbayer	Aug 2012	#57
So you don't have to be Christian to be a decent person, just adopt some of Jesus' teachings?	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#65
I didn't say anything like that and I am not a master Christian.	cbayer	Aug 2012	#67
The are very few "facts" in the bible	mr blur	Aug 2012	#5
The Christian logic that counters this is very simple.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#6
Conservatives like to ignore why government started doing social welfare	Fortinbras Armstrong	Aug 2012	#8
"I am sure that Jesus would approve of government money being used to help the poor."	trotsky	Aug 2012	#10
That is my point	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#11
And they think you're an idiot.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#12
You are wrong	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#13
I can sit here and tell you this...	trotsky	Aug 2012	#14
Compared?	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#16
You're the one telling everyone else what Jesus REALLY meant...	trotsky	Aug 2012	#17
everyone?	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#18
Doesn't matter who you claim to have directed your words at.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#23
according to the Bible	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#24
Hard to believe you're single.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#25
I have had great luck, thanks	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#26
Likewise, I'm sure.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#27
"If you have a problem with that, well, 2bad." Is that what jesus taught, too?	cleanhippie	Aug 2012	#59
Funny, your way of talking reminds me of religious freaks, too.	cleanhippie	Aug 2012	#58
LOL	Skittles	Aug 2012	#34
You just do what you do best, Skittles.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#35
thanks trotsky!	Skittles	Aug 2012	#37
Isn't that CUTE	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#39
You sure do have a strange idea of reality.	mr blur	Aug 2012	#54
You're a fine example of a Christian, RobertEarl.	trotsky	Aug 2012	#55
The only way you got your assed kissed	cleanhippie	Aug 2012	#60
You've got a good point there.	jeepnstein	Aug 2012	#30
Nice post RobertEarl. Welcome to the Religion Group.	cbayer	Aug 2012	#9
Thanks cbayer	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#41
Yes, it does. I suggest liberal use of the ignore feature for a much more positive experience.	cbayer	Aug 2012	#56
Translation: Stick your fingers in your ears and yell "la la la la la la I can't hear you"	cleanhippie	Aug 2012	#62
Indeed, you posts most certainly had a "lack of understanding and backawardness"	cleanhippie	Aug 2012	#61
Well, this post is insulting and bigoted against every non-Christian on the planet, congrats! n/t	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#36
Heh	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#40
Oh, I do apologize, please carry on conversing about your own superiority. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#42
Nah	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#44
Allow me to ask...	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#46
I ...	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#47
Yes, because that character isn't what we would call good...	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#48
I see your problem	RobertEarl	Aug 2012	#50
An extremist about what? n/t	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#52
Also, you are asking for my opinion on a mythological/legendary character, I don't understand...	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#53
"I see your problem. You are an extremist."	cleanhippie	Aug 2012	#63
Also, that's not what you said in that post, the implication was that non-Christians don't...	Humanist_Activist	Aug 2012	#49
Why would I want to be a megalomaniacal religious fanatic?	onager	Aug 2012	#38
Jesus is a liberator. That's why his state-church killed him. Be prepared to be	patrice	Aug 2012	#51
I agree with you.	CJCRANE	Aug 2012	#68
We know what the Romans wanted Him to do and say, that's the NT. What He	dimbear	Aug 2012	#69
No, what he did	skepticscott	Aug 2012	#70

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