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Didn't Pope "JoePa" Naziberger zbdent Aug 2012 #1
Good point, but priests have an option. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #2
Religion so often gets a pass. JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #3
It is beyond me why folks stay members ... earthside Aug 2012 #4
Have you talked to any Catholics about this? cbayer Aug 2012 #5
I have edhopper Aug 2012 #6
Are those not valid and important reasons? cbayer Aug 2012 #7
They are contributing members of a hate group, I don't see anything wrong with criticisizing that. Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #8
But there are beliefs, traditions and rituals unique to the Catholic church, so you cbayer Aug 2012 #9
Read Shirley Jacksons "The Lottery" edhopper Aug 2012 #11
Frankly I'd be satisfied if they just stop donating to their local parishes... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #12
Many people get many things from the church and those that fund it. cbayer Aug 2012 #14
Considering the actions of Catholic run charities, not to mention how little of their funding... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #16
You asked a question, I answered edhopper Aug 2012 #10
Are you really comparing the Catholic church to the Nazis? cbayer Aug 2012 #15
And i thought you were asking about my edhopper Aug 2012 #17
Many in the South didn't think the fight was about slavery at all. cbayer Aug 2012 #18
So if you think that skepticscott Aug 2012 #19
And they were wrong edhopper Aug 2012 #21
I agree that they were wrong, but it is what they believed. cbayer Aug 2012 #23
I don't see the Church changing edhopper Aug 2012 #48
Tell that to the activist nuns (who I hope will make a big splash this week) cbayer Aug 2012 #50
The ones that are probably going to be edhopper Aug 2012 #51
Well, we shall see what happens, but I don't think they will be excommunicated. cbayer Aug 2012 #52
Well, that's the problem skepticscott Aug 2012 #53
Any one who thinks secession from the Union in 1861 was not about slavery... rexcat Aug 2012 #64
You are right. They haven't read it and they have their own (weird) history. cbayer Aug 2012 #67
The only thing that made things change... rexcat Aug 2012 #69
I agree that that is what made them change, but I fail to see where they are trying cbayer Aug 2012 #70
Here edhopper Aug 2012 #72
Thanks. They've got the bucks for the lawyers, that's for sure. cbayer Aug 2012 #73
And all the Catholics who give money that goes to those laywers are edhopper Aug 2012 #74
That's your opinion and we shall just have to agree to disagree here. cbayer Aug 2012 #75
Oh I agree that edhopper Aug 2012 #76
We had gotten so far without name calling. cbayer Aug 2012 #78
Apologies edhopper Aug 2012 #79
Thanks. I really did enjoy talking with you, edhopper. cbayer Aug 2012 #80
You are very welcome. edhopper Aug 2012 #90
It would appear you have a blind spot... rexcat Aug 2012 #96
And are the facts that skepticscott Aug 2012 #13
......... Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #28
Are you going to share? cbayer Aug 2012 #29
That is like saying people stay in the KKK because Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #30
I think the comparison to the KKK (or Nazi Germany, which was also done in this thread) cbayer Aug 2012 #31
The Catholic Church has no problem telling people of other faiths Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #36
Not sure saying that since the Catholic church has done it, then you should to cbayer Aug 2012 #38
I think it is the best one Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #43
Well, I guess if you don't object to others doing it to you.... cbayer Aug 2012 #44
Not even if skepticscott Aug 2012 #55
I have people of different religions knocking on my door all the time Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #58
I don't have anyone knocking at my door to do that, but when I did cbayer Aug 2012 #63
Their 45 year search is valid Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #66
You can tell them whatever you like, but I am sure they are aware. cbayer Aug 2012 #68
Most proselytizing is to benefit a specific church. Trying to sway folk away from the RCC is dimbear Aug 2012 #95
I don't see them as very valid since they had next to no sway with me ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #97
You're proselytizing right now, cbayer. trotsky Aug 2012 #98
Everything you say has much to do with why I am not Catholic. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #54
+1 Kurovski Aug 2012 #59
Anti-Catholic bigotry has always been a feature of the American landscape. pnwmom Aug 2012 #61
Must be tough being a Catholic. Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #87
It's a broad brushed smear to condemn all Catholics for the actions of a few. pnwmom Aug 2012 #89
I went and re-read the article linked in the OP Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #91
I wasn't responding to the OP or the link in it. I was responding to another post. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #92
What possible benefit is there in comparing two heinous crimes against children? cbayer Aug 2012 #20
I see no justice being edhopper Aug 2012 #22
Agree and those in Rome seem untouchable. cbayer Aug 2012 #24
The Hague would have jurisdiction, but neither child molestation nor hindering the prosecution... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #25
Great information. I know very little about this aspect. cbayer Aug 2012 #26
I would be satified if the edhopper Aug 2012 #49
I say jail the pope Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #27
As noted above, that is apparently not an option. cbayer Aug 2012 #32
So hiding pedophiles is not against International law?? Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #37
See post #25 cbayer Aug 2012 #39
Only when it comes to extradition treaties between nations, and both nations have to agree to it... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #41
When I went to a local Catholic Food Pantry HockeyMom Aug 2012 #33
Wow, that's bad. Where did that happen? cbayer Aug 2012 #34
Long Island HockeyMom Aug 2012 #46
It should not matter at all and a group who makes it so should be exposed. cbayer Aug 2012 #47
Yes, and those rules against it skepticscott Aug 2012 #56
I have heard of many cases regarding catholic charities which are similar to yours. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #57
None of us should have sympathy for any pedophilia organization, but the problem is that the phrase AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #35
We will probably never know due to the shields in place, but it's a good question. cbayer Aug 2012 #40
Has anyone read the findings of the US RCC investigation of the crimes of the US priests and the Leontius Aug 2012 #42
I have read synopses and have scanned the whole document, but not read it in detail. cbayer Aug 2012 #45
US investigation? That would be the criminal investigation skepticscott Aug 2012 #60
No I was asking about the internal RCC investigation but if DOJ has a report I would be interested Leontius Aug 2012 #62
Of course the US Justice Department skepticscott Aug 2012 #71
Not really I just let you go where you needed to go for whatever point you needed Leontius Aug 2012 #82
Nice dodge, but fail skepticscott Aug 2012 #84
Here we have intellectual dishonesty displayed at it finest Leontius Aug 2012 #88
In other words skepticscott Aug 2012 #93
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #94
No, no, you're not allowed to criticize the RCC unless mr blur Aug 2012 #65
Have you read their report? Did I say you could not criticize the RCC if you hadn't ? Leontius Aug 2012 #77
And have YOU read skepticscott Aug 2012 #81
That's what I am asking for, those here who have actually read the report "critiques of the report" Leontius Aug 2012 #83
No, that's NOT what you asked for in #42 skepticscott Aug 2012 #85
Well I did not think anyone of marginal intelligence would have a problem with Leontius Aug 2012 #86
Seriously? Saying "the US investigation..." wouldn't mean an investigation done by US authorities cleanhippie Aug 2012 #99
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