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daaron

(763 posts)
48. Pretty hard to say what's what.
Sat May 19, 2012, 06:33 PM
May 2012

Once one takes advantage of all the time that's passed and surveys the whole scope of Christian history. There are a great number of extra-biblical early Christian texts that offer very different cosmologies, theologies, liturgies, the works. Why do modern Christians continue to give undue weight to the Councils of Nicea and that era's choice of orthodox canon, when there is so much more to explore for the open-minded scholar to read and ponder!

A thorough reading of the "Lost Books of the Bible" ought to disabuse a reasonable Christian of their gullibility for biblical miracles, and open up new ways of understanding not just Christ, but many of the fundamental elements of the faith. There was no agreement on who Jesus was, or what was true. Surely we have grown since the time of Constantine. As just one example, consider how the Dead Sea Scrolls have changed our understanding of both baptism and the Last Supper - they turn out to have firm albeit marginal roots in mainline Judaism dating back at least to the Maccabean revolt.

Congratulations. That's the first question in the Inquisition TrogL May 2012 #1
As a christian I have to tell you most christians do not know their faith well. hrmjustin May 2012 #2
So what is the point of religion then?? Angry Dragon May 2012 #4
I am not saying prayers are not answered or it is all made up. hrmjustin May 2012 #5
So you're saying skepticscott May 2012 #21
This is all based on faith and reason. hrmjustin May 2012 #34
If you have faith skepticscott May 2012 #42
You know i like the way you think. hrmjustin May 2012 #45
Y'know, I know this doesn't make sense, but --> daaron May 2012 #47
you are on targert about what is currently happening in progressive religion. Thats my opinion May 2012 #43
Well my beliefs work for me, and remember... hrmjustin May 2012 #46
"The bible throughout history was never read literally by the church." edhopper May 2012 #27
It would be more accurate to say bible scholars not the church itself... hrmjustin May 2012 #33
Maybe it was at times. I will say this, I was raised Catholic, and Catholic schools Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #56
Nicely said. cbayer May 2012 #37
Thanks my friend. hrmjustin May 2012 #41
That's true. The Bible was not read like a fairy tale until the evangelicals took control of Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #55
Many people don't realize that about bible scholarship is that... hrmjustin May 2012 #67
That's true. Not just that, but also the evangelicals employ heavy Cafeteria Bible... Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #68
I guess the point is that it all helps in the end mindwalker_i May 2012 #6
Okay, please back away from the Old Testament. aquart May 2012 #7
But without badly misinterpreting it, they wouldn't be able to claim Jesus as the messiah. laconicsax May 2012 #14
There probably was an actual historical guy there. aquart May 2012 #30
Pretty hard to say what's what. daaron May 2012 #48
In that reading of religion, not much. nt Thats my opinion May 2012 #8
Do you think the only value of religion would be getting god to do what you want? cbayer May 2012 #36
I am not sure where that question came from Angry Dragon May 2012 #60
That's one heck of a mean god, seemingly helping not at all, seemingly Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #54
This guy Omniscientone May 2012 #63
Great way to interpret the core yuk that is dupe city all the way. The faithful believe in the dupe earcandle May 2012 #3
Nothing sounds more like a transparent scam Warpy May 2012 #9
Great post, warpy. cbayer May 2012 #38
If the tornado misses my house Speck Tater May 2012 #10
I especially love the survivor of an accident or disaster aka-chmeee May 2012 #20
Which is another way of attempting to gain control. aquart May 2012 #31
Life goes on or it doesn't. How we adapt is key. mia May 2012 #11
+1 cordelia May 2012 #22
I don't believe in God edhopper May 2012 #28
Well, that's great. You and she share something in common! cbayer May 2012 #39
First of all GOD is not a Christian thing exclusively. RegieRocker May 2012 #12
Could you be any more snide if you tried? uriel1972 May 2012 #13
+1 JNelson6563 May 2012 #17
Blah blah blah nothing here move on RegieRocker May 2012 #65
I agree. CJCRANE May 2012 #18
" a greater percentage of religionists are more mature than atheists."? mr blur May 2012 #25
... EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #29
+1 nt eqfan592 May 2012 #40
Careful...I had a post hidden for using that cartoon. n/t laconicsax May 2012 #61
No it is you who doesn't get it that is obvious. RegieRocker May 2012 #64
That's why I ended up going extra-biblical. daaron May 2012 #15
I remember JNelson6563 May 2012 #16
Christians would cluck skepticscott May 2012 #23
Yup. I understand that. I don't get why Christianity claims God is good. Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #59
Talk about human meddling in things religious 2on2u May 2012 #19
All gods are better than their reputation. rug May 2012 #24
Cultured, not feeling particularly well, dreamer, TEMPER, quick thinker, deep thinker, aquart May 2012 #32
non-practicing pantheist here... alterfurz May 2012 #26
Hmm... thanks. nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #52
What church(es) have you attended that told you these things? cbayer May 2012 #35
Well, only on Christianity because it is the right wing's best pal, and the #1 reason Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #50
Everyone's religion looks batshit from outside Prophet 451 May 2012 #44
Are you serious? nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #49
About my faith? Entirely Prophet 451 May 2012 #53
Yes, I am pretty amazed nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #57
Hence, my point Prophet 451 May 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Prophet 451 May 2012 #51
I agree, they all apear that way to me. cleanhippie May 2012 #69
ALL religions are like that, not just Christianity. Odin2005 May 2012 #62
None of these things are unique to Christianity AlbertCat May 2012 #66
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