Response to Thats my opinion (Reply #19)
Tue May 8, 2012, 06:28 AM
trotsky (42,824 posts)
28. Well of course not. Atheists are no threat to you.
We don't have the numbers, we don't have the political clout.
As I and many others have tried repeatedly to point out to you, we just want to keep religion and politics separate. We don't like it when the religious right cloaks their agenda in their religion, and we don't like it when religious progressives do it either. Most of the posts here critical of religion in general are pointing out the futility of trying to anchor arguments or political positions on theology. I'm sorry this point has flown over your head and instead all you can see is endless personal attacks on you because of your religion.
But if it's OK for you to push for a law because Jesus wants us to do it, well then, why can't a Republican do the same thing? Can't you see why it's better to leave Jesus' opinion out of it when it comes to making policy? Then-senator Obama put it quite well in 2006:
"Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. What do I mean by this? It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason. I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons ... but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I can't simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all."
And I think it's worth pointing out that you aren't always disputing with fundamentalists. In fact, most of the time, your voices are mute when the fundies are speaking. I know, I know, that's allegedly the media's fault. Personally I think it's because of your much smaller numbers and lack of willingness to engage and confront your real enemies.
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