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Proof that God is evil? Easily and quickly controverted. [View all]
Last edited Wed Dec 21, 2016, 06:35 PM - Edit history (1)
There is a recent post here to the effect that God is evil. In fact, the poster goes so far as to say that it is incontrovertible that God is in fact evil because he does not follow the Golden Rule.
But the point of this post is that the poster initially posited that the mere presence of evil, also defined variously in the thread as "bad things happening", or the presence of illness, is incontrovertible proof that a god cannot exist.
According to the few dictionaries that I used as a source, incontrovertible means:
Incontrovertible evidence is a colloquial term for evidence introduced to prove a fact that is supposed to be so conclusive that there can be no other truth as to the matter; evidence so strong it overpowers contrary evidence, directing a fact-finder to a specific and certain conclusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incontrovertible_evidence
If it were in fact, incontrovertible, there would have been no serious discussion on the merits of the proposition because it would be incontrovertible. So the very fact that there is much argument on the merit of this post is incontrovertible proof that the post is fallacious.
I cannot see any possible controversy arising out of my statement of an incontrovertible fact.
Edited to add:
Obviously some people do believe that the existence of random occurrences in a dynamic universe constitutes proof that a deity must be evil.
And many people argue that there is no deity, no Creator. Is the outcome to this non-theistic belief a conclusion that the universe itself is evil?
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But then there are universal values across all cultures. the Golden Rule for example.
rug
Dec 2016
#6
Would it be evil if a species that posed a great danger to other species died out?
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#14
I am first to admit that I have a finite mind. Ergo, I choose not to engage in dialogues
cornball 24
Dec 2016
#4
I did read that post and quite honestly, I was distressed by it. Your responses, I found to be both
cornball 24
Dec 2016
#12
Good and evil are terms that are generally used to categorize actions and beliefs.
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#46
But recognition that the Creator intended for his sentient creations to have free will
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#53
Knowing full well it would develop into a capricious, decidedly unfriendly place?
Act_of_Reparation
Dec 2016
#79
The main idea of the argument is what should be the object of fixation, one would think.
Act_of_Reparation
Dec 2016
#120
My intent in posting was to state that it is not irrefutable that God is evil.
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#123
And as I pointed out, you're right. Because your god could also just be a clueless dick.
trotsky
Dec 2016
#126
That doesn't resolve the issue of suffering that is outside human control...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#100
Well these are questions that humanity will continue to ask after we are long gone.
hrmjustin
Dec 2016
#118
I need incontrovertible proof that there is a god before I entertain whether or not it's an evil god
Iggo
Dec 2016
#56
1-3 allegorical. 4-literal. 5-7 allegorical. Although 7 is based on a mistranslation.
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#83
There is no evidence Hebrews were ever used as slaves in Egypt during the building of the pyramids.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2016
#98
Little difference to me, except one holds the possibility of returning it, someday.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2016
#114
What about the extended components of Exodus, like Passover and the plagues?
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2016
#116
Looking at the Big Picture. The Universe is all of time and space and it's contents.
cornball 24
Dec 2016
#121