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trotsky

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5. While it's nice to see you have somewhat moderated your offensive and insulting position on this...

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Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:24 AM

Apr 2012

to something a little less blatantly insulting, you're still wrong. You have no way of knowing that the movement required religion. History played out the way it did, but unless you have a time machine and can try altering it to see what happens, you have absolutely no way of being certain about your statement.

But hey, it sure seems like the conditions that led to the Civil Rights movement being necessary in the first place couldn't have existed without religious people and institutions, I'll give you that.

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The question has arisen as to the importance of religion and religious people in the civil rights [View all] Thats my opinion Apr 2012 OP

We must be open minded. Sometimes you find friends in the most unexpected places. freshwest Apr 2012 #1

And yet these days one of the prime opponents of full civil rights for all is religions.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #2

While true that some of the prime opponents to GLBT civil rights can be found in churches, cbayer Apr 2012 #8

Episcopalian.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #9

I would suggest, then, that you weren't in what I would describe as a liberal church. cbayer Apr 2012 #10

I also attended Southern Baptist services sometimes.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #12

Was the civil rights movement a topic of discussion in the Baptist church you attended? cbayer Apr 2012 #13

The N word was commonly used at the Baptist church, never heard it at the Episcopalian.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #14

Ah, that kind of Baptist Church. cbayer Apr 2012 #16

"some of the prime opponents to GLBT civil rights can be found in churches" trotsky Apr 2012 #15

You very dishonestly skepticscott Apr 2012 #3

The question didn't just "arise" - you brought it up, mr blur Apr 2012 #4

While it's nice to see you have somewhat moderated your offensive and insulting position on this... trotsky Apr 2012 #5

How do you know? If atheist were allowed to just proclaim our beliefs without madmom Apr 2012 #6

What happened? Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #19

Um, really? Are you that out of touch. Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #20

I don't think he's obtuse. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #21

Yeah, but this one is beyond the pale. Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #22

My question had to do with the civil rights movement, not the 50s and 60s, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #27

So you lived through it Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #28

Fair enough Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #29

Read McCarthy's speech "Enemies form Within" from 1950 Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #47

The Internet skepticscott Apr 2012 #48

Point well made and well taken. nt Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #49

Translation: skepticscott Apr 2012 #53

OK, let's hear from a few actual Black people on the subject... onager Apr 2012 #37

Good solid citations. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #38

Ooohhh...you get the "good, solid" award! skepticscott Apr 2012 #40

Yep, and with the usual thrilling bonus - condescension! onager Apr 2012 #43

Mm-hmm, yeah. Iggo Apr 2012 #7

There is nothing unique or special rrneck Apr 2012 #11

To speculate on what might have been Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #17

Speculating on what might have been is exactly what you're doing! laconicsax Apr 2012 #18

And your (obvious) prejudices never "get in the way"? mr blur Apr 2012 #23

I haven't trashed anything yet. rrneck Apr 2012 #24

Well said! nt mr blur Apr 2012 #26

I will just not deal with bigotry of that sort. bye nt Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #30

So rrneck Apr 2012 #31

Yes, he does have a choice skepticscott Apr 2012 #33

+1. rrneck Apr 2012 #34

I'm not sure you understand what REAL bigotry is EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2012 #32

You are not using that word correctly, or it doesn't mean what you think it does. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #51

That is one brilliant post. trotsky Apr 2012 #50

Religion caused the NEED for a Civil Rights movement in the first place. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #25

Joshua Chapter 9 verse 27: dimbear Apr 2012 #35

Religious people....always taking the credit, never accepting the blame. Evoman Apr 2012 #36

While Americans of all sorts, have been on both sides of the major isssues before the country, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #39

Then why not just celebrate what they did skepticscott Apr 2012 #41

Ha. Evoman Apr 2012 #42

You'd be a helluva car salesman if you decide to go that way. rrneck Apr 2012 #44

A strong argument correlating that car salespersons, politicans, clergy persons, snake-oil con-men.. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #45

Yep. rrneck Apr 2012 #46

Paul and Silas bound in jail had no money for to go their bail struggle4progress Apr 2012 #52