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Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:54 AM

prefunk (54 posts)

59. Nice post.

But I have a question.

In your last paragraph you state that there are two groups resisting these developments, established religious authorities and non-theists threatened by anything new in religion that they cannot put down.

While I agree with your take on the first, how could you possibly know that the reason you stated for the second group is accurate? Could not a more plausible reason be that non-theists are threatened by the history of religion, which has made change after change for thousands of years, only to continue to be oppressive and exclusionary?

As a foster parent, I equate this feeling to one of the kids I had in my home who was physically abused by his parents. Even when placed in a loving and caring environment, he resisted the love and positive attention shown to him. Is that because he is "gun-shy" or because he was just unable to find a reason to be afraid?

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59 replies	Author	Time	Post
Something revolutionary new in religion [View all]	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	OP
You are correct. They survived the Jesuits, forgave Galileo,	Warpy	Apr 2012	#1
This is not new. It is not revolutionary. It's been seen for centuries.	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#2
Indeed. Ask the Berrigans. Or the liberation theology movement. Or Dorothy Day.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#9
I'm curious as to why you don't even want to see what the nuns are saying?	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#47
I said nothing about the nuns.	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#50
The Difference Might be That the Dissidents are Members of the Clergy or Religious Orders	On the Road	Apr 2012	#3
Up until the last paragraph, I'm on board with you. Then you get into a slightly	dimbear	Apr 2012	#4
It is not that there are those who don't want to see the nuns reforming the church,	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#40
Except that nuns are NOT reforming the church. Never have and never will.	skepticscott	Apr 2012	#42
Your second to last sentence, I find very offensive	Angry Dragon	Apr 2012	#5
Let me deal here with several responses.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#15
It seems to me this is different from your earlier claims	muriel_volestrangler	Apr 2012	#16
That's hitting the nail on the head.	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#22
Living in a community with several nuns, former nuns and former Catholic priests,	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#41
Perhaps the reaction you get is due to you poisoning the well?	trotsky	Apr 2012	#17
Big time +1. (nt)	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#21
"What was your reason for including it?"	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#23
As would I	EvolveOrConvolve	Apr 2012	#26
What I would like to see are links to back up things you state	Angry Dragon	Apr 2012	#20
That is what I mean.There is no support here,	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#27
Wow, really?	trotsky	Apr 2012	#43
I have no disrespect for theism	Angry Dragon	Apr 2012	#55
I have never seen any link in any of your posts	Angry Dragon	Apr 2012	#57
If you read through these posts, can you understand what I was talking about?	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#34
Non-theists "threatened" by religion?	xfundy	Apr 2012	#6
I have just posted an alternative which you ignore.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#32
I'm getting awfully sick and tired of you referring	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#52
I wonder why it's so important to you,	mr blur	Apr 2012	#7
Apparently we are in league with the pope.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#10
Damn, they found out! On to Plan B: the Mormons. nt	mr blur	Apr 2012	#11
Does this mean that the Catholic church will stop trying to tell non-Catholics how to live? n/t	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#8
Of course not.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#28
There you go again, taking one event and saying it's happening "all over."	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#31
One event?	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#48
Have you seen how the lists you've posted elsewhere constitute a drop in the ocean?	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#51
I don't like others telling me how to live based on their particular brand of what is to me delusion	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#39
Why on earth would ANY "non-theist" want to "put down" an effort to further...	trotsky	Apr 2012	#12
I do not understand	edhopper	Apr 2012	#13
What is new in religion "that cannot be put down?"	immoderate	Apr 2012	#14
Why is it that you post these somewhat insightful posts only to poison them with falsities...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#18
Just say how you celebrate what is happening, and I'll take you seriously. nt	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#29
I celebrate the weakening of the power and influence of the Catholic Church...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#36
Revolutionary as it ever was...	onager	Apr 2012	#19
Twain makes me proud to have been born in Missouri.	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#24
Please tell us why that Twain post--which is delightful and true---	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#30
Witches,	tama	Apr 2012	#37
You've really displayed a confounding lack of understanding of atheism and non-believers.	TransitJohn	Apr 2012	#25
This is not the"atheists" group.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#33
And if you want to find people who won't disagree with you, try a group.	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#35
Might you agree that there is a difference	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#45
It's not the "agree with me about religion" group either...it's not a group at all	TransitJohn	Apr 2012	#44
If it is not a group, what is it? If you look under "religion" you will find the word "group"	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#46
I don't care that they winnowed down the forums on DU3...it's still the Religion Forum	TransitJohn	Apr 2012	#53
Actually, it is a Group. Says so right at the top.	mr blur	Apr 2012	#49
I don't care that they winnowed down the forums on DU3...it's still the Religion Forum	TransitJohn	Apr 2012	#54
You are correct.	trotsky	Apr 2012	#58
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. (sans texte)	dimbear	Apr 2012	#38
Holy fuck, you must love to fight. That last sentence ruins your whole post, and is so not true.	Evoman	Apr 2012	#56
Nice post.	prefunk	Apr 2012	#59

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