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In the discussion thread: How sure are you that atheists don't "get" religion? [View all]

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:36 AM

Silent3 (6,810 posts)

57. I don't think I've lost anything, at least not anything I'd want to keep

It's only by your reasoning that something either must now be missing, or I must not have had that special something needed to properly appreciate religion in the first place.

I'm sure you can hand-wave away the problem here, making it "personal", making it about what I want or don't want should do the trick.

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108 replies	Author	Time	Post
How sure are you that atheists don't "get" religion? [View all]	Silent3	Apr 2012	OP
Okay, I confess I'm stereotyping here...	Permanut	Apr 2012	#1
Well you might not know why you are here but I know why I am.	cstanleytech	Apr 2012	#7
I hear ya...	Permanut	Apr 2012	#9
I wanted to join seminary before I read the Bible, then I read it...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#2
"I cannot wrap my mind around the idea..."	tama	Apr 2012	#17
There are an awful lot of my fellow "religionists" who don't "get" religion.	Common Sense Party	Apr 2012	#3
There are an awful lot of my fellow "religionists" who don't "get" religion.	AlbertCat	Apr 2012	#6
Many atheists are former theists	longship	Apr 2012	#4
My mother, ever the hopeful social-climber	HeiressofBickworth	Apr 2012	#5
Another former theist here	JFN1	Apr 2012	#8
Former theist (Judaism), now agnostic-atheist	sakabatou	Apr 2012	#10
This message was self-deleted by its author	Duppers	Apr 2012	#11
I'm an agnostic.	BlueMTexpat	Apr 2012	#12
Being an atheist doesn't mean the person must deny the possibility of something like a deity exists.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#14
No problem on my part with that.	BlueMTexpat	Apr 2012	#32
Good post	tama	Apr 2012	#43
Very well written and thought out post.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#73
What's to get???	bpollen	Apr 2012	#13
What proof is needed for non-belief?	Silent3	Apr 2012	#18
I totally agree, Silent3	Duppers	Apr 2012	#15
No problem	Silent3	Apr 2012	#19
It's a common observation	tama	Apr 2012	#16
Brilliant!	Silent3	Apr 2012	#20
needs more quantum.	dmallind	Apr 2012	#21
MUCH more quantum.	cleanhippie	Apr 2012	#22
Quantum is like the cowbell of woo	Silent3	Apr 2012	#30
More is not better	tama	Apr 2012	#35
Why are you trying to dominate me?	Silent3	Apr 2012	#36
A consciouss and satirical projection!	tama	Apr 2012	#39
No, let's not	Silent3	Apr 2012	#41
Yup	tama	Apr 2012	#44
Is there a train coming?	skepticscott	Apr 2012	#45
As said	tama	Apr 2012	#47
!	cleanhippie	Apr 2012	#77
Are you admitting that Christianity is an addiction?	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#23
Religious and authoritarian needs	tama	Apr 2012	#29
What about people who believed in thing like	edhopper	Apr 2012	#25
Since you asked the question at the end of your post	Leontius	Apr 2012	#24
So why do you think most atheist	edhopper	Apr 2012	#26
Most?	tama	Apr 2012	#42
You are questioning my question to Leonitus	edhopper	Apr 2012	#49
Nitpicked 'most'. Thanks for clarification nt	tama	Apr 2012	#53
For some because they think they will be perceived as so much more	Leontius	Apr 2012	#100
That seems agree with the idea that many don't believe	edhopper	Apr 2012	#102
Actually no to your last sentence	Leontius	Apr 2012	#103
Ahhh yes, I see it now.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#104
You are quite welcome glad to straighten out your gross ignorance on the issue.	Leontius	Apr 2012	#106
I was only ignorant of the depth of your own ignorance.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#108
Thank you for clarifying.	edhopper	Apr 2012	#105
I'm sure you do and I understand your position on my statement and at one time felt the same.	Leontius	Apr 2012	#107
Agree with you on that.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#27
So why do you think many atheist don't care for religion?	edhopper	Apr 2012	#50
What do you mean by "don't care for religion"?	cbayer	Apr 2012	#51
OP asks:	edhopper	Apr 2012	#56
Oh, I see where you are coming from now.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#58
If you read it they way I do	edhopper	Apr 2012	#60
Most of the atheists I know got there after much thought and contemplation.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#61
I still want to know why Leonitus	edhopper	Apr 2012	#62
Well, I certainly can't speak for him.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#63
That was all my post was about	edhopper	Apr 2012	#80
Who said that you specifically or atheists in general don't "get" religion?	cbayer	Apr 2012	#28
How about the man who constantly says that only someone "internal" to the faith	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#31
Come on, you have a very good idea of the sort of religion you hate,	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#66
I think a good number (if not most) of the atheists...	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#68
There are many paths to wisdom. Religion is just one.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#82
A lot of atheists or agnostics have not had it easy when it comes to..	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#86
I don't hate religion. I hate what religious people do in the name of their religion,	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#69
Patience is a virtue.	ellisonz	Apr 2012	#99
darkstar3 gave a good example, but this sort of thing comes up all the time...	Silent3	Apr 2012	#34
There is difference	tama	Apr 2012	#37
They are both the same	Silent3	Apr 2012	#38
The agenda	tama	Apr 2012	#40
If it pushes itself	skepticscott	Apr 2012	#46
That's a fair point	tama	Apr 2012	#48
If one starts from a negative and dismissive position on either, it is highly unlikely one will	cbayer	Apr 2012	#52
So, what did I supposedly lose from when I was religious?	Silent3	Apr 2012	#54
I have no idea. If you don't know, how in the world could I?	cbayer	Apr 2012	#55
I don't think I've lost anything, at least not anything I'd want to keep	Silent3	Apr 2012	#57
What are you talking about?	cbayer	Apr 2012	#59
Since I cannot crawl inside your mind--or your heart, which is even more important--	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#83
It's your reasoning, not mine, however, that leads to the conclusion...	Silent3	Apr 2012	#87
Maybe	tama	Apr 2012	#90
Faith is the belief in something without proof.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#71
This is another good argument for developing a new language to discuss this.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#72
Ya know, I'm honestly not sure.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#74
The question you really have to ask yourself is,	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#75
Probably about two seconds flat sadly, but at least maybe within our own group...	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#76
Then I shall be an Asnarliff!	cbayer	Apr 2012	#78
Thus began the first Snarliff/Asnarliff forum war!	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#79
L Ron Hubbard had a real feel for religion. Hard to deny that he got it all too well. n/t	dimbear	Apr 2012	#33
My guess is they understand a version of religion that few thinking people hold.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#64
Let me ask you something, Captain Condescend...	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#65
There are plenty of thinking people who have no religion.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#67
What you don't seem to get is that you attribute this "thinking faith" to far more people	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#70
I know full well that the majority of religionists do not have the POV I represent.	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#84
Where is the proof?	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#85
Start with the religion departments at Yale, Princeton, Harvard, the University of Chicago,	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#88
Oh, I can drop names too.	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#89
No thanks. No response will ever be enough to pry open a closed mind. nt	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#95
Actually, he gave you a very simple and explicit request that would open his "closed mind."	trotsky	Apr 2012	#97
"Five links, and no bullshit." <- Maybe you missed that part?	darkstar3	Apr 2012	#98
This week's winner of the Bright Shiny Mirror Award. nt	mr blur	Apr 2012	#101
What exactly was "toxic" about post #4 in this thread?	trotsky	Apr 2012	#92
You made a judgement about non-thinking theists;	Thats my opinion	Apr 2012	#94
Uh, no I didn't. #4 is not my post.	trotsky	Apr 2012	#96
Scientific language...	Joseph8th	Apr 2012	#81
While as an ideal	tama	Apr 2012	#91
"You got your chocolate..."	Joseph8th	Apr 2012	#93

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