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SamG

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39. Well, you have some good points.

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:04 AM

Apr 2012

Science needs to reconcile with people who are religious and who have more than enough power politically to stifle scientific research. Yet the only "reconciliation" needed there is for those folks with backward religious beliefs to get an education in just what science is, and just what religion cannot ever hope to be, namely a method and discipline for discovery and exploration, explanation and rational prediction about the universe we all live in.

Unfortunately, many religious people here in the USA are attempting to sidestep a science education for children and replace part of that education with more mythology about the creation of the world, about the age of the planet, etc.

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Science has NO NEED TO reconcile with RELIGION ! [View all] SamG Apr 2012 OP

It depends on the religion somewhat. Catholic schools teach evolution and always have... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #1

Do Catholic schools teach that reasonable people can... SamG Apr 2012 #2

Nope, but the Catholic Church followed the leader of the inventors of the Anti-Abortion movement... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #4

I have been around since Bill Baird in the 1960's! SamG Apr 2012 #6

I was raised Catholic. I'm not saying the Catholic religion is not anti-abortion. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #8

That's because the leaders are 100% male and those men Warpy Apr 2012 #9

Right... that's the problem... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #56

God created Evolution HockeyMom Apr 2012 #3

I know, and that's what I believe, too. The more science uncovers, the more I believe in a Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5

None of that statement "God created Evolution" makes sense SamG Apr 2012 #7

It's better than the alternative HockeyMom Apr 2012 #10

+1 Very true! Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #14

Well, maybe. But maybe not. longship Apr 2012 #11

I didn't talk about people who do the believing based upon faith SamG Apr 2012 #12

The article to which I believe your refer (which I posted) was written by a scientist cbayer Apr 2012 #13

I don't think this thread has anything to do with your thread SamG Apr 2012 #17

You think I don't have a career or am bilingual? cbayer Apr 2012 #18

Speak to me in your other language, then. SamG Apr 2012 #19

Sorry, I don't take orders from you, but then again cbayer Apr 2012 #22

I agree. And we have an argument for that. longship Apr 2012 #15

Faith tama Apr 2012 #42

Yeah, but you forgot about quantum faith. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #43

I see tama Apr 2012 #46

You see? If you would stop trying to apply your narrow minded logic, you would know cleanhippie Apr 2012 #54

If there was such a thing tama Apr 2012 #60

How do you know there isn't? laconicsax Apr 2012 #71

How do you know tama Apr 2012 #72

The implication is that it doesn't. laconicsax Apr 2012 #73

I thought tama Apr 2012 #74

That's quite the obfuscation! laconicsax Apr 2012 #75

This is fun! tama Apr 2012 #76

Wrong, wrong, and wrong again. laconicsax Apr 2012 #77

Question about quantum-faith: DetlefK Apr 2012 #80

I suppose that would depend on what type of geometry is at play. laconicsax Apr 2012 #83

If there was such a thing as quantum faith, AlbertCat Apr 2012 #81

The word can mean many things AlbertCat Apr 2012 #49

OK tama Apr 2012 #52

Faith in its normal definition longship Apr 2012 #55

You don't have to take any person seriously, period. tama Apr 2012 #58

Well, I have faith that the moon is made of green cheese longship Apr 2012 #62

OK tama Apr 2012 #65

You mean that the moon may be made of green cheese? longship Apr 2012 #68

Lol! rug Apr 2012 #16

Reconciliation between science and religion isn't absolutely necessary, but... Silent3 Apr 2012 #20

And don't even get me started on the property settlement! cbayer Apr 2012 #21

Reconciling is simple -- science gets the last word on everything that can be observed starroute Apr 2012 #23

Once a believer said the following to anon-believer, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #25

Love is a lot harder starroute Apr 2012 #32

"Now that you have deconstructed God, now deconstruct love." AlbertCat Apr 2012 #50

Except that... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #57

Science it not where it was in 1599. Neither is religion. nt Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #24

Would you care to comment upon which of the two has... SamG Apr 2012 #26

SILENCE for an hour on the question! I guess we know which SamG Apr 2012 #27

From TMO, silence is all you will get. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #28

It's a mixed bag. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #78

You aren't making a key connection here. trotsky Apr 2012 #82

That's a hard thing to measure. rrneck Apr 2012 #29

Was it the science that did that, or the political and other convictions of those who SamG Apr 2012 #30

Like i said, it's hard to measure. rrneck Apr 2012 #31

Right, but... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #59

AFAIK tama Apr 2012 #64

I don't think the Nuremberg defense quite gets the job done. rrneck Apr 2012 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #33

Nice answer, Sarah Palin. n/t Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #45

If by science tama Apr 2012 #34

This is the most accurate thing you've typed I think I've ever seen. trotsky Apr 2012 #35

Having studied tama Apr 2012 #38

"Whichcraft?" Is that anything like "Whatscraft" or "Whoscraft?" LAGC Apr 2012 #47

LOL tama Apr 2012 #48

I was once bit by wherecraft! OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #84

it's not something that happened during "theocratic" Middle Age AlbertCat Apr 2012 #51

Yup tama Apr 2012 #53

Well, scientists may need to if religion has a chair at the political table HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #36

Or more generally tama Apr 2012 #37

Scientists try to control social influences on science but you can't take HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #41

" 'Science' and 'Religion' are abstract nouns with little agreement over any exact definitions." humblebum Apr 2012 #63

Well, you have some good points. SamG Apr 2012 #39

Democracy is messy and comes without guarantees... HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #40

Very broad generalisations tama Apr 2012 #44

Agreed 100%!!! Joseph8th Apr 2012 #61

Molification of the above... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #67

Walls of Separation tama Apr 2012 #70

Thanks... love the music of those two groups of... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #79

Clearly, there are anti-scientific religious notions that do not need science's attetntion. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #69

But it doesn't need to be. OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #85