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cbayer

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Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:16 AM Jul 2015

The Bible Does Not Condemn Homosexuality. Why Does Franklin Graham Not Get This? [View all]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nicholas-phillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality_b_7807342.html


Adam Phillips
Pastor of Christ Church: Portland, an open, active & inclusive faith community for God's glory & neighbor's good.

Posted: 07/16/2015 11:10 am EDT Updated: 07/16/2015 11:59 am EDT


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The word "homosexuality" didn't even show up in English translations of the Bible until 1946, so why do we say the Bible condemns it?

Billy Graham's son is terrified that President Obama and a whole host of us have chucked out our Bibles in order to support marriage equality. This week he was at it again on Facebook, railing against "the assault on biblical marriage," referencing California lawmakers who want to amend federal law by striking gendered language pertaining to two partners in a legal marriage. Franklin, son of Billy, even goes on to make the Biblically inaccurate comment that "The One who created marriage defined it as between a man and a woman." I wish he would read my post on this and then re-read the Bible.

Brother Franklin, even thinks that President Obama should invest in more lightning rods in case God strikes the White House in fiery wrath.

This is laughable if it weren't so powerfully sad. Here's the thing, Franklin: You need to read your Bible better. The sooner you do, the more and better work you can do in Africa and elsewhere with Samaritan's Purse. We need your time focused not only on poverty but in addressing America's original sin of racism. We need all you got for those fights. It's time to end the culture wars and fully focus on the war against poverty, racism and injustice in our world.

Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners, a mentor in the faith, talks about the early days of gathering his new community, coming out as Evangelicals during the Vietnam crisis, going back to the Bible for help and guidance.

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Maybe he's dealing with some Ted Haggard cognitive dissonance! MADem Jul 2015 #1
I think that he knows he has an audience... cbayer Jul 2015 #4
Because Graham is a "carnival hucksters" who forms his ladjf Jul 2015 #2
Bingo. cbayer Jul 2015 #5
His father was very good at what he did. As a fellow educator, I was amazed by the ladjf Jul 2015 #14
I think Billy was a much better politician. cbayer Jul 2015 #16
Love that sailboat. But, it's just as well. That's your boat. nt ladjf Jul 2015 #23
Sadly my boat is up in the air for hurricane season. cbayer Jul 2015 #24
Does that mean you're no longer "basically homeless"? cleanhippie Jul 2015 #25
You should add the link for the inevitable alert that's going to come Heddi Jul 2015 #26
It's my understanding that living in a villa in Italy for the summer cleanhippie Jul 2015 #29
Franklin Graham has twisted his "fairy-tale" Bible beyond all recognition. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #3
Agree and he feeds it to anyone who will iisten. cbayer Jul 2015 #6
"Why do we say the Bible condemns it?" skepticscott Jul 2015 #7
The bible also doesn't mention bvf Jul 2015 #12
It's not that simple Major Nikon Jul 2015 #47
Umm..yeah..it is that simple skepticscott Jul 2015 #48
You funny Major Nikon Jul 2015 #49
Um...no..my best argument is a direct quote from the Bible skepticscott Jul 2015 #50
If that's the case, your argument sucks even more Major Nikon Jul 2015 #51
Seriously? That's your answer? skepticscott Jul 2015 #53
I have no interest in educating those who wish to remain willfully ignorant Major Nikon Jul 2015 #55
In other words, you can't back up one damn word you said skepticscott Jul 2015 #57
Franklin is a bigot, but so are other clergy folk who are lauded here without reservation and that Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #8
I don't think anyone is lauded here without reservation. cbayer Jul 2015 #11
This comes pretty close: Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #22
Because he doesn't want to. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #9
Exactly. He knows who lines his pockets cbayer Jul 2015 #10
Hmmm, the fact that such condemnation exists to cherry-pick... uriel1972 Jul 2015 #13
As I am sure you know, there are some passages in the bible that are used by cbayer Jul 2015 #17
What part of "Abomination" is not condemnation? uriel1972 Jul 2015 #19
Oh and the standard penalty for abominating in the bible is death, generally by stoning. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #20
Did you read this author's analysis of that verse? cbayer Jul 2015 #21
Leviticus 20:13 uriel1972 Jul 2015 #27
No amount of judicious cherry-picking can disguise the festering hate that lies within. cleanhippie Jul 2015 #30
Whether you agree with Rev Grahma or not is entirely relelvant. cbayer Jul 2015 #32
I read it as a whole, there are a few "Good Bits" and a lot of "Hate Bits" uriel1972 Jul 2015 #33
Your reading is your reading. cbayer Jul 2015 #35
Hahaha WOW. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #37
I ***DO NOT*** support their bigotry... uriel1972 Jul 2015 #39
My point is that it doesn't support their agenda. cbayer Jul 2015 #41
Okay... uriel1972 Jul 2015 #42
You are certainly within your rights to interpret it any way you want. cbayer Jul 2015 #43
Except that you can't provide that interpretation skepticscott Jul 2015 #44
The article you posted IS proselytizing...sheesh! skepticscott Jul 2015 #40
Do you even read what you post? Lordquinton Jul 2015 #46
When someone claims that there is NOTHING in the bible skepticscott Jul 2015 #45
Read the entire chapter 20 of Leviticus put into perspective and it becomes more clear Major Nikon Jul 2015 #52
I got your freaking perspective right here skepticscott Jul 2015 #54
Please do go all night Major Nikon Jul 2015 #56
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #58
This is a great summary, MN, and much appreciated. cbayer Jul 2015 #60
There are many theologians, biblical historians, and linguists who say the same thing Major Nikon Jul 2015 #61
And the traslations were clearly influenced by the politics cbayer Jul 2015 #62
Did *you* read it? Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #31
Hmm, I'm not saying it's any less uriel1972 Jul 2015 #34
I was responding to cbrayer, not you. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #36
This is a weapon several churches are using right now against gay people. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #38
because the bible certainly does condemn homosexuality. nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #15
Um, the author doesn't actually address the leviticus problem, except to show that people AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #18
Nor does he address any of the myriad passages condemning sex without procreation. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #28
Not directly, but he provides references that do Major Nikon Jul 2015 #59
Context, context, context. Thanks for the posts. (nt) pinto Jul 2015 #63
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