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eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
58. Indeed it does require extraoridnary evidence...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:59 PM
Apr 2012

...so it's a good thing there already exists some extraordinary evidence to support it.

Dealing with both the Pam Reynolds case as well as NDE's in general, we have no reason to assume the experiences that Pam Reynolds had took place during her time of brain inactivity. We already know biologically what is happening to people who experience NDE's, and I'd wager the same took place here. It is also possible that her brain activity wasn't as fully stopped as they believed, and that a very low level of activity remained during the surgery. As for her experiences, she already had an idea of what was going to occur during the surgery, and she may have even seen some of the tools that were used prior to the surgery. Her brain could have reconstructed the rest.

Reincarnation does have some interesting evidence, but it's not very solid and much further study would be required before it would constitute proof.

Incorruptible corpses are explained through a variety of means. A site that gives a quick run down is this: http://listverse.com/2011/04/19/10-mysteries-and-their-most-logical-explanation/

Incorruptible Corpses are corpses that have been ‘preserved without embalming or any other artificial means’. The most famous is St. Bernadette Soubirous (above), who died in 1879. Her face and hands are made out of wax. The wax was added because her face was emaciated when she was first dug up. Other incorruptible corpses give off a sweet odor, similar to embalming fluid. Others still are due to how they were buried, in alkaline soil, with a lack of oxygen and bacteria and worms.


As you said, we've talked about Sheldrake previously, and even though you deny it, his methodology IS very poor from a scientific perspective. He often fails to allow for controls, does little or nothing to eliminate observational bias, and his collection of data regarding psychic dogs is largely gathered from surveys filled out by the general public with absolutely no controls whatsoever, and thus must be completely discarded. He also now seems unwilling to open his research up to the peer review process, instead choosing to publish his work to the general public, which is an awful indicator of major woo. Maybe this will change with time, but right now he's going in the wrong direction with his work, becoming more secluded from the rest of the scientific community.



From the link tama Apr 2012 #1
Are you telling me that brains decomposing, or "rotting," after death isn't backed up by science? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #2
No tama Apr 2012 #5
So it's just a coincidence that brains do rot and that all consciousness 100% correlates with brains dmallind Apr 2012 #3
"that's all it is" tama Apr 2012 #7
You mean I ask for evidence and refuse to accept woo woo in its place dmallind Apr 2012 #8
I mean tama Apr 2012 #9
This from the one who practically worships Sheldrake's work, and dismisses criticisms made of him? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #10
Wrong. nt tama Apr 2012 #11
So that wasn't you on DU2 continually talking about consciousness as an "epiphenomenon" darkstar3 Apr 2012 #12
Define consciousness tama Apr 2012 #14
I think, therefore people piss me off. It's a close enough definition to work with. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #15
Quite cartesian. :) tama Apr 2012 #16
Sorry, but what is there to cherry pick? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author tama Apr 2012 #26
The burden of proof tama Apr 2012 #27
LOL! laconicsax Apr 2012 #29
You claim tama Apr 2012 #33
After doing some quick research on this Sheldrake person... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #40
My advice tama Apr 2012 #42
I did read at least one of Sheldrakes responses. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #44
Agreed tama Apr 2012 #46
Do you understand what happens during the decomposition process after death? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #30
Why do you need tama Apr 2012 #31
Guess-project a strawman?!?!? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #36
I don't need to believe anything, now do I? tama Apr 2012 #38
I have no problem with skepticism. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #39
My skepticism tama Apr 2012 #41
Sorry, but I think you're taking things just a tad too far. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #43
What proof? tama Apr 2012 #45
I don't believe there is a "theory of brain reduction." eqfan592 Apr 2012 #48
As you say tama Apr 2012 #53
What evidence is there of telepathy? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #54
I consider the claim tama Apr 2012 #55
Indeed it does require extraoridnary evidence... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #58
As expected tama Apr 2012 #59
Science knows a great deal about skepticscott Apr 2012 #60
Interesting tama Apr 2012 #62
Wow, and there you go way off the deep end. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #61
You make many tama Apr 2012 #63
I think then we are at an impasse. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #64
And thanks to you! :) tama Apr 2012 #65
Ultimately an absurd debate. If one believes in god, then one believes in a being that... Moonwalk Apr 2012 #4
Death tama Apr 2012 #13
Science alway admits to "not knowing" what it doesn't know. It's religion that refuses to admit... Moonwalk Apr 2012 #17
I would avoid tama Apr 2012 #19
Imagine my remorse at losing your respect. Allow me to try and win it back.... Moonwalk Apr 2012 #20
Thanks tama Apr 2012 #24
if you could only say, "some religionists say," we could have a conversation. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #28
Actually, I don't think he said "religionists" at all. (nt) eqfan592 Apr 2012 #37
I didn't say "religionists." I said "religion" and I didn't say "atheists." I said science.... Moonwalk Apr 2012 #49
No one I've ever heard of now or in histotry, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #21
Pop quiz: Yes or no? "God can do anything." darkstar3 Apr 2012 #22
No --that is a gotcha question if there ever was one. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #47
It was a question your assertion set you up for. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #51
Do you believe in bodily resurrection? Leontius Apr 2012 #56
I never said anything about God being a "super human magician." That was your statement darkstar3 Apr 2012 #57
Hmph tama Apr 2012 #25
If you're going to argue here, at least be honest skepticscott Apr 2012 #32
Thanks tama Apr 2012 #35
Are you saying that no one believes Jesus was physically resurrected? trotsky Apr 2012 #34
I didn't make up anything--you just need to read more history.... Moonwalk Apr 2012 #50
You know, the more I read your response to my post, the more absurd it becomes! I mean really.... Moonwalk Apr 2012 #52
Maybe it's just armchair quarterbacking... Silent3 Apr 2012 #6
George Pell was Bishop of Melbourne when i taught at the Melbourn University of Divinity. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #18
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