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edhopper

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33. The 7 year old boy was smart to say that.

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:32 PM

Apr 2012

Since the whole Exodus story and Moses himself are just myths. Never happened and he didn't exist. They were borrowed from Babylonian stories.

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Good Friday’s big question: Is doubt good? [View all] cbayer Apr 2012 OP

I'm trying to get rrneck Apr 2012 #1

"Art, like faith, doesn't give us a place to stop. It offers us a place to start." cbayer Apr 2012 #3

LOL! rrneck Apr 2012 #5

Art, like faith, doesn't give us a place to stop. It offers us a place to start. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #89

+1: Great analysis Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #12

How so? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #14

Not in the way traditional (as opposed to fundie) Christians actually use it Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #15

I can't explain why, but my first thought was darkstar3 Apr 2012 #16

The most important thing to doubt... longship Apr 2012 #2

Very much agree. That is why it is so hard to answer cbayer Apr 2012 #4

Another reason it is so hard for some people skepticscott Apr 2012 #8

In the final analysis, doubt is all we have, and all we ever will have. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #6

Agree. It is those who think they absolutely know that are the most frightening. cbayer Apr 2012 #7

Compare and contrast skepticscott Apr 2012 #9

I guess you put me in my place, huh? Speck Tater Apr 2012 #10

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #11

Forty years ago Speck Tater Apr 2012 #17

My experiences are similar to yours. Now I embrace the uncertainty and I am humbled. cbayer Apr 2012 #18

What exactly do you mean by "embrace the uncertainty"? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #19

Not all religion preaches certainty at all. cbayer Apr 2012 #20

The assumptions I make about religion are based on every religions figure I have ever met. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #22

But an atheist by definition is certain there is no god (with maybe a small scintilla of not being cbayer Apr 2012 #23

You've been here long enough to know that VERY FEW atheists define themselves that way. PassingFair Apr 2012 #25

When people tell believers that they are delusional, that is saying that what they believe cbayer Apr 2012 #26

Who told you you were psychotic? PassingFair Apr 2012 #36

Delusions are symptoms of psychosis, therefore calling someone delusional cbayer Apr 2012 #42

Who said I was laughing? I could have been rolling my eyeballs. PassingFair Apr 2012 #44

That discussion was about the validity of religious experiences by psychotic people. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #85

Most atheists I know are quite certain that there is no god. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #30

This is CLASSIC projection. PassingFair Apr 2012 #37

Well, look at it this way Warpy Apr 2012 #51

Well put. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #53

Hereis the difference. cbayer Apr 2012 #54

That's fallacious argumentation. Would you care to guess which fallacy? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #56

But if enough people believe Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #68

Well, I'd see them putting caps on their chimneys Warpy Apr 2012 #74

And that's ok. You don't have to go. cbayer Apr 2012 #76

Only as long as they don't get their way Warpy Apr 2012 #84

There has never been shit down my chimney Warpy Apr 2012 #93

Exactly AlbertCat Apr 2012 #91

Sorry, but atheists are not by definition certain there is no god. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #80

Religion make the claims. PassingFair Apr 2012 #50

You don't know anything about *my* religion and are in no position to tell cbayer Apr 2012 #55

As far as I know, "Christians" are bound to believe in Christ's divinity. PassingFair Apr 2012 #78

There are millions of Christians who don't make that claim. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #79

What Christians don't believe that Jesus was the "son of God"? PassingFair Apr 2012 #82

They are virtually convinced that they know the answers, AlbertCat Apr 2012 #90

Certain religions preach certainty. Certain skeptics preach certainty. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #29

Both were atheist edhopper Apr 2012 #31

And both knew the dangers of feigned certainty. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #34

So your an agnostic? edhopper Apr 2012 #40

Time and time again in this forum Speck Tater Apr 2012 #57

Wasn't going there. edhopper Apr 2012 #86

If you consider yourself an atheist, you claim to have specific knowledge of the supernatural's PassingFair Apr 2012 #47

Neither Sagan nor Einstein identified themselves as atheists. cbayer Apr 2012 #35

Many Atheists eshew the label. Mostly because of the "accepted" definition. PassingFair Apr 2012 #41

I let people define themselves in these regards, and put little weight on what others may say about cbayer Apr 2012 #43

Um if you are not a theist, then what are you? PassingFair Apr 2012 #45

I've posted this list before Speck Tater Apr 2012 #58

3 and 4 are the same person darkstar3 Apr 2012 #60

See. No two people can agree on the definitions. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #63

See, you're just digging for disagreement, and your definitions show that. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #65

Ah. I disagree with you thus I am irrational. OK. I can live with that. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #67

Did I call you irrational? No. I called you down for telling others that THEY were. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #70

OK. Here's the straight poop. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #73

Another assumption, this time about my "perspective" and where it lies in relation to yours. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #75

Point taken. nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #77

Naming and calling tama Apr 2012 #94

Atheists claim that there is no EVIDENCE of "non-physical realities" (LOL) PassingFair Apr 2012 #39

Show an atheist evidence, and you will create a believer. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #59

Prove it. ;) darkstar3 Apr 2012 #61

Search the literature in psychology. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #66

I HAVE searched the literature. Psychology is something I'm pretty familiar with. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #71

Embracing the unknown is what atheists and agnostics do. PassingFair Apr 2012 #21

Maybe the terminology and labels ought to change. All seem to embrace the unknown. pinto Apr 2012 #27

Except some people just admit that we don't know. PassingFair Apr 2012 #38

Why? pinto Apr 2012 #48

Why what? PassingFair Apr 2012 #49

I'm only saying that some people... Speck Tater Apr 2012 #62

Give an example of one of those people. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #64

I'm making shit up. I declare you the winner. Feel better now? nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #69

If "winning" is what you're concerned about, you're doing this wrong. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #72

Yet another unimpressive claim of finding "truth" in a non-existent middle. Yawn. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #13

Yes. Doubt's the co-pilot of discovery, imho. pinto Apr 2012 #24

if you come across someone with no doubts--look out! nt Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #28

That's for sure! Speck Tater Apr 2012 #32

+1 PassingFair Apr 2012 #46

I think that's the only post of yours I've agreed with completely Warpy Apr 2012 #52

Would you be willing to admit that there are posters here who say they are atheists and who claim Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #81

None that won't admit a minute scrap of statistical doubt Warpy Apr 2012 #83

The 7 year old boy was smart to say that. edhopper Apr 2012 #33

Why do you think they were borrowed? Igel Apr 2012 #87

If you are saying the Babylonian myths could have edhopper Apr 2012 #92

I doubt....... AlbertCat Apr 2012 #88