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stone space

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Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:10 PM Nov 2014

Episcopal Church in Michigan passes gun resolution [View all]

Episcopal Church in Michigan passes gun resolution

Niraj Warikoo, Detroit Free Press 9:41 a.m. EST November 3, 2014

The dispute is part of a larger debate among Episcopalians and other mainline Protestants about the future of their churches as they face sharp declines in membership.

The Episcopal Church in Michigan has passed a controversial resolution calling for stiffer gun control, drawing sharp criticism from conservative members who say it violates the right to bear arms.

The dispute is part of a larger debate among Episcopalians and other mainline Protestants about the future of their churches as they face sharp declines in membership.

Some conservatives say the gun resolution is the latest example of the Episcopal Church focusing on promoting liberal social issues such as gun control and same-sex marriage instead of the gospel, alienating congregants. But liberals say that their views are in line with the teachings of Christianity.

By a clear majority, members of the Episcopal Diocese of Michigan — which consists of southeast Michigan and the Lansing and Jackson areas — voted recently to approve a resolution calling for universal background checks on all gun purchases, banning all sales of semiautomatic weapons, high-impact ammunition, high-capacity ammunition magazines, and making gun trafficking a federal crime.

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Rick Schulte, director of communications for the Episcopal Diocese of Michigan, did not comment on the resolution. Supporters say it was a necessary move and one that reflects the views of the Episcopal Church and Christianity. They noted last week's shooting in a Washington state high school as the latest example of gun violence.

"We work to bring God's peace to the world," said the Rev. Chris Yaw, rector of St. David's Episcopal Church in Southfield. "God's kingdom is not of violence; it's of peace."

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http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2014/11/03/episcopal-church-michigan-gun-resolution/18382335/
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The more voices the better. rug Nov 2014 #1
Well, as a gun control advocate, I am glad to see this. cbayer Nov 2014 #2
Does the NRA care if it alienates you? upaloopa Nov 2014 #5
No, but they are a gun advocacy group. cbayer Nov 2014 #6
Only to consider what is the right thing to do. upaloopa Nov 2014 #16
I'm really ambivalent here and I'm not even sure why. cbayer Nov 2014 #17
You don't go back on your ideals because upaloopa Nov 2014 #18
Well, actually I have known and admired some of them before I found out what their cbayer Nov 2014 #19
False. All forms of violence, including 'gun violence' are on the decline, statistically. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #34
I know that I've alienated plenty of my fellow atheists... stone space Nov 2014 #7
It's so divisive. cbayer Nov 2014 #13
Depends on how one defines 'gun control'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #33
More divisive than offering sanctuary to immigrants? stone space Nov 2014 #37
I don't think offering sanctuary is divisive within a liberal/progressive community, but cbayer Nov 2014 #48
There is quite a bit of anti-immigrant sentiment... stone space Nov 2014 #49
I really haven't seen anti-immigrant sentiment in this community. cbayer Nov 2014 #53
I haven't been at DU long enough to know what's acceptable here and what isn't. stone space Nov 2014 #54
Fortunately, I'm not religious. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #60
I'm not religious, either. stone space Nov 2014 #61
I too, have hope. And I'm normally a huge pessimist. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #62
I don't know any fellow atheists here Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #24
I'm not thinking of here at DU. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #25
Good to know. I was wondering. nt Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #26
I'm afraid that guns are a religion for some. stone space Nov 2014 #27
Mine mostly sit in the safe. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #32
That's the pronounced libetarian streak. rug Nov 2014 #50
Watch Gordon Klingenschmitt lose his poop over this shenmue Nov 2014 #3
I have no idea who this is but I love this sentence. rug Nov 2014 #8
An extremely crazy right-wing minister and tee vee show guy shenmue Nov 2014 #12
"Klingenschmitt" reminds me of the Star Trek joke. rug Nov 2014 #15
LOL Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #22
Which gospel has the second amendment in it? upaloopa Nov 2014 #4
The Gospel According to Nobody in the Dang World shenmue Nov 2014 #10
+1 freshwest Nov 2014 #23
Hmmm atreides1 Nov 2014 #9
Such a silly rhetorical question, don't you think? cbayer Nov 2014 #11
Same reason they look both ways before crossing the street. Their god doesn't exist. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #31
I look both ways when I cross the street, and... stone space Nov 2014 #38
Good for them! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #14
I'm a practicing Episcopalian, and, dude, this is really stupid. Damansarajaya Nov 2014 #20
Jesus would not have packed heat. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #21
Curious... NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #28
You mean like... stone space Nov 2014 #29
What the fuck is 'high impact ammunition'? AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #30
I'm opposed to that one. stone space Nov 2014 #35
More complex than that. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #39
Do you have the breakdown on which Supreme Court Justices... stone space Nov 2014 #40
Yes it was. And as I daid, you should read the dissents, because they aren't outright 'No's' AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #42
Do you know who voted in favor and who dissented? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #43
Kennedy, Alito, Thomas, Roberts, written by Scalia. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #45
Thank you. I recognize those names. stone space Nov 2014 #47
Broken clock/twice a day. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #51
That crew is not right twice a day. stone space Nov 2014 #52
Kyllo v. United States AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #55
Not the same crew. (n) stone space Nov 2014 #56
Correct. The makeup of the court has changed over time. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #57
Nobody crossed over in Heller. stone space Nov 2014 #58
Except the 'no's' were a qualified 'no' that doesn't exactly mean 'no' but 'you should do this AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #59
How many bullets do you feel you need in a gun? stone space Nov 2014 #36
I generally accept the mfgr's recommendation. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #41
Where do you carry it? stone space Nov 2014 #44
In the woods. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #46
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