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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
147. Books don't matter.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:23 AM
Mar 2012

You should be confronting individuals directly. Like here on DU where you attempt to preach. Do the same thing, but on fundie/creationist boards. They aren't going to pick up your book or read your column, let's get real. Yes, you might get banned. But keep trying - isn't that what Jesus would want you to do?

BTW, most of the substance of your posts seems to complain about not getting the respect you think your viewpoint deserves. I'm telling you where you can preach actually to accomplish what you keep telling us is happening - a "new Christianity" (kindler, gentler, etc.) It's been pointed out to you now more times than I can count that your sweeter, fresher-smelling version is STILL a tiny, insignificant minority. You want to change Christianity? Engage CHRISTIANS, especially the ones who disagree with you (HINT: you won't find many of them on DU), and quit bragging to atheists and complaining that they don't appreciate you.

What is happening in the religious world? [View all] Thats my opinion Mar 2012 OP
All religion that relies on faith is irrational, which means all of it. Warpy Mar 2012 #1
Rationality can be a very broad term or a very narrow one. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #23
"more later"? skepticscott Mar 2012 #71
I didn't address "be patient" to you. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #73
I must have missed the rule skepticscott Mar 2012 #82
no...it depends on what you have faith in.. Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #76
If it's rational, it doesn't require faith. It requires proof Warpy Mar 2012 #83
I looked up what rational belief is and yes it requires evidence and/or reason but.. Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #84
That was written by a believer Warpy Mar 2012 #86
truth is facts exist but the human mind has its limits Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #97
If it is beyond human understanding, how can it be a fact? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #103
sure Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #104
So the fact itself is that we don't know. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #105
all I'm saying is Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #107
I agree. Not everything makes sense...yet. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #108
I agree Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #109
Interesting. Can we continue this conversation? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #110
only if god was a material entity... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #111
So if god is just some intangible force, like love or happiness... cleanhippie Mar 2012 #112
Devotion, worship and prayer are not for the benefit of "God" GliderGuider Mar 2012 #121
I'm not saying they are forces of nature.. Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #123
I'm ok with that. I think we're on the same page. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #133
The concept of God being all powerful and capable of exerting energy... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #136
The problem isn't what you think it is. laconicsax Mar 2012 #2
But you never answer the question of what it is that is on the horizon. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #3
Be patient. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #24
As a catholic I don't even recognize the church I grew up in. I still have my faith and beliefs but southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #4
So what is left of your faith? Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #25
Well I was born a catholic and I could never change that. I just have my personal relationship southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #33
Well, respect to you for your caring actions. But, mr blur Mar 2012 #49
My father-in-law never ever went to church. But I know he was a man of faith. I never heard him southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #50
I was not attacking you - mr blur Mar 2012 #57
Wait, wait. I wasn't trying to attack you. I think your a very thoughtful person. I am southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #59
Not offended, truly, and glad you weren't either. mr blur Mar 2012 #77
Well good you have a nice day too. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #81
Instead of trying to convert her to your way, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #53
You know, your arrogance can be breathtaking. mr blur Mar 2012 #58
I have been asked a series of interesting questions for which there ares no simple answers. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #60
Oh boo-fing-hoo. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #63
Here is what looks like a--"why don't you just give up on religion" evangelistic message Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #61
Why can't you just answer that simple question? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #64
Wrong, as you are perfectly aware. mr blur Mar 2012 #79
Keep on doing the good things you are about. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #52
Well who knows. God plants us where he wants us to bloom, right? LOL. I alway thought southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #69
Plotting a new course for religions like Xianity is akin to stopbush Mar 2012 #5
Who are you trying to convert--and why? I thought that was out of bounds. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #54
If so, then this whole discussion board is out of bounds. trotsky Mar 2012 #56
If I ever infer that Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #62
You've never apologized for the slam that started it all. trotsky Mar 2012 #90
You do try skepticscott Mar 2012 #72
that's not an evangelistdic message calling me or someone to change their mind and Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #65
Plotting a new course for religions like Xianity is akin to... AlbertCat Mar 2012 #66
because you offer no way of knowing it is make believe and secondly... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #78
Why do you always skepticscott Mar 2012 #6
The ones who are the most sensitive and defensive about their past are atheists. humblebum Mar 2012 #7
Irrelevant non-response skepticscott Mar 2012 #9
You're projecting again. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #14
You have several frames here that are annoying to the atheist... rexcat Mar 2012 #8
Fait or confidence per se tama Mar 2012 #10
As far as irrational... rexcat Mar 2012 #16
Do you accept number theory? tama Mar 2012 #30
Well... rexcat Mar 2012 #37
Re Sagan quote tama Mar 2012 #48
I think skepticscott has got it right... rexcat Mar 2012 #51
Sadly tama Mar 2012 #70
No... rexcat Mar 2012 #75
OK tama Mar 2012 #88
You have made some good points... rexcat Mar 2012 #99
Sorry, fail skepticscott Mar 2012 #39
Fair enough tama Mar 2012 #46
Please offere more of a description of the arational. nt Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #44
Just a word play :) tama Mar 2012 #47
I see kindness Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #27
Religion is not a precurser to kindness... rexcat Mar 2012 #34
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #36
The problem that you repeatedly seem to show, mr blur Mar 2012 #11
i never said and don't believe that Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #28
A few questions (none of them the evil "gotcha" variety)... trotsky Mar 2012 #12
Try this. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #22
Why is the personal, omnipotent God edhopper Mar 2012 #26
For nth time tama Mar 2012 #32
true edhopper Mar 2012 #42
You do not speak for all atheists Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #41
You are right edhopper Mar 2012 #43
undefined, undetectable "energy" AlbertCat Mar 2012 #67
! edhopper Mar 2012 #68
Burnin' down the house.... AlbertCat Mar 2012 #87
AFAIK tama Mar 2012 #89
Because it's not edhopper Mar 2012 #93
Well, tama Mar 2012 #94
It is also not a license to edhopper Mar 2012 #115
There is need, tama Mar 2012 #116
You've also suggested skepticscott Mar 2012 #31
So basically you're saying that: trotsky Mar 2012 #40
To clarify Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #45
... trotsky Mar 2012 #55
But if there is a part of the church moving in the direction I suggest, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #85
Hooray! trotsky Mar 2012 #91
They also make life hell for me, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #95
You just contradicted yourself again. trotsky Mar 2012 #98
+1 (nt) mr blur Mar 2012 #113
I am right in the middle of the struggle between liberal Christians and the fundamentalists, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #114
No, you're not skepticscott Mar 2012 #117
Oh, you are? trotsky Mar 2012 #118
And yet again skepticscott Mar 2012 #13
Well, if you wouldn't be posting such "gotcha" stuff Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #15
You had better watch out... rexcat Mar 2012 #17
Or with the average level skepticscott Mar 2012 #29
Now I'm offended! mr blur Mar 2012 #18
But are you a heathen Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #19
Ah, a "Gotcha" post! mr blur Mar 2012 #38
Every repsonse to the OP... rexcat Mar 2012 #20
What is happening in the religious world? It is devouring itself, that is what is happening. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #21
I approach it the other way... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #80
this remindms me of a quote deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #35
Christian mainstream theology(Christ resurrection, omnipotence) isn't primitive Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #74
The god of the Bible is largely a vengeful, murderous a-hole. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #100
some Christian fundies only enforce OT views... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #102
I'm asking myself the same question. jeepnstein Mar 2012 #92
I probably will agree with you, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #96
Ken Hamm, for starters. jeepnstein Mar 2012 #101
young earth creationism (Ham's take) Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #106
So why aren't you on creationist sites trying to make your case? trotsky Mar 2012 #119
How do you know he isn't? tama Mar 2012 #122
You've read his OPs Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #126
Plus, one doesn't last very long, mr blur Mar 2012 #128
Could it be tama Mar 2012 #132
I've spent half a lifetime challenging them. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #129
So you gave up? trotsky Mar 2012 #134
I bet I could find a post from a creationist Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #120
it isn't making religion irrelevant...it is showing its true power and meaning... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #124
Isn't it weird that the true power and meaning looks Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #125
what do you mean...what do you think the true power and meaning is? Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #127
Maybe you don't--and that's OK. Just don't make your "we" universal nt Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #130
Kind of like you do with your theology Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #131
Because you lack a deep understanding of theology. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #135
Strange! Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #137
Because you are one leading the charge here Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #138
Come on. You don't have the foggiest idea what I do to confront creationists. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #139
A goodly number of posts here skepticscott Mar 2012 #140
Because you've never told us what you do. trotsky Mar 2012 #141
Creationists here and elsewhere Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #142
You still haven't told us what you do to combat them. trotsky Mar 2012 #143
If I mentioned what I have written, it would bring down you know what. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #144
No, I'm asking you where you are confronting the creationists and fundies and how. trotsky Mar 2012 #145
I don't think you really want to know. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #146
Books don't matter. trotsky Mar 2012 #147
The "substance" of your posts has been skepticscott Mar 2012 #148
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