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In the discussion thread: I am removing the content of this post and apologizing for posting it. [View all]

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 07:55 PM

Silent3 (6,807 posts)

85. You expect that "fun" crap to impress?

And to convince me you aren't sneering on top of that?

If you claim that "religion is likely very individual to and for many people" who is it individual for? Individual for the atheist who doesn't consider atheism a religion at all, or individual for you when you're passing judging on atheists?

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I am removing the content of this post and apologizing for posting it. [View all]	cbayer	Mar 2012	OP
Here we go again!	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#1
I have to agree with the thesis--I've said something similar in the past, myself.	MADem	Mar 2012	#2
Really? Then state these rules and guidlines. Should be easy enough for you. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#3
Oooooh, someone wants a pissy fight!	MADem	Mar 2012	#5
That would be a position statement, doesn't constitute a religion...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#13
Well, each to their own knitting, then! nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#36
They did ask you for the rules and guidelines	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2012	#17
Why does anyone need a LOT of rules and guidelines? Some people want DU2 in every aspect of their	MADem	Mar 2012	#35
You're the one who claimed atheist rules and guidelines exist	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2012	#47
I did name them--you just didn't like their succinct quality and you might want a fight, too.	MADem	Mar 2012	#50
repeating the definition of 'atheism' is not giving a rule or guideline	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2012	#53
Sure it is--if you don't like my rules, make up your own. I am not the Pope of Atheists, after all.	MADem	Mar 2012	#54
The term "atheism" is equivocal by itself, but organized atheism, such as	humblebum	Mar 2012	#132
Since the OP was about atheism, and not American Atheists, or organized atheism	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2012	#133
I would consider an atheist organization to fall into the realm of atheism.	humblebum	Mar 2012	#134
I'll type it slowly: rules and guidelines.	Goblinmonger	Mar 2012	#27
I just did--sorry if you don't like 'em! Make up your own, then! nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#34
Exclamation points are your "tell."	greyl	Mar 2012	#62
OOH....! We've The Mentalist On Board here at DU! Here! Let me give you a few MORE "tells!"	MADem	Mar 2012	#67
When I snap my fingers,	greyl	Mar 2012	#75
Don't get a blister, now. nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#76
I haven't snapped them and you haven't answered the question. nt	greyl	Mar 2012	#77
I have answered it. I answered it a long time ago.	MADem	Mar 2012	#81
What hogwash	edhopper	Mar 2012	#7
agree.	juxtaposed	Mar 2012	#31
If you spend your life wrapped up in disproving something, sure, that can be seen as cultish, too.	MADem	Mar 2012	#32
You broaden the definition so much	edhopper	Mar 2012	#33
Why don't you work on narrowing it for your fellows, then, and see if they agree with you? nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#37
Nice one :)	edhopper	Mar 2012	#44
So fighting for equal pay for equal work is a religion?	Silent3	Mar 2012	#72
I think religion is likely very individual to and for many people.	MADem	Mar 2012	#83
You expect that "fun" crap to impress?	Silent3	Mar 2012	#85
I don't care if you are impressed or not.	MADem	Mar 2012	#87
When you try to stick people with a label they don't want...	Silent3	Mar 2012	#89
No it isn't. It's expressing an opinion. Only someone with lack of, dare I say, faith, in their	MADem	Mar 2012	#99
It seems to bother you when atheists say...	Silent3	Mar 2012	#107
It isn't true. I am not at all bothered! Not in the least.	MADem	Mar 2012	#108
I'm not name calling!	Silent3	Mar 2012	#110
Excuse me, but your apparent belief…	MrModerate	Mar 2012	#90
Well, I am me, and you are you.	MADem	Mar 2012	#91
The rules for theological discourse aren't imaginary?	MrModerate	Mar 2012	#92
I'd say just the opposite.	MADem	Mar 2012	#101
I'm impressed by your doggedness . . .	MrModerate	Mar 2012	#116
Not necessarily, but in practice there are a lot of anti-monotheists calling themselves atheists...	saras	Mar 2012	#4
Well,	edhopper	Mar 2012	#9
In my experience, most are caught up in transcendent deities and don't even consider monism...	saras	Mar 2012	#58
I wish I knew what you were trying to say?	edhopper	Mar 2012	#59
So do I, actually. But my point is that none of us do yet...que sera, sera	saras	Mar 2012	#61
Thanks	edhopper	Mar 2012	#74
Why would you post something that you KNOW is flamebait?	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#6
It's from reason.com and a very well written piece, imo.	cbayer	Mar 2012	#8
I think he is getting at your apparent hypocrisy more than the actual OP.	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#10
It's not well written.	edhopper	Mar 2012	#11
Reason.com? Isn't that a Koch Bros. libertarian site?	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#12
I pointed it out...	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#14
I have never called for an end to contentious debate. I have called for civil debate.	cbayer	Mar 2012	#18
Isn't calling for civil debate the same as calling for the end to contentious debate?	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#20
I see contentious debate as heated or controversial, while an uncivil debate	cbayer	Mar 2012	#21
The problem is that both sides have different interpretations of "rude" and "personal"	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#25
There was a good thread in here recently about the term militant atheist.	cbayer	Mar 2012	#28
"Very well written?" Your standards have plummeted, then	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2012	#22
Muriel, I did not say that I agreed with what she was saying, but I did enjoy reading	cbayer	Mar 2012	#26
This message was self-deleted by its author	MrModerate	Mar 2012	#117
Now that you know the bullshit that funds reason.com	Goblinmonger	Mar 2012	#29
This forum has never supported actual religious discussion.	MADem	Mar 2012	#38
While I agree with you for the most part, someone would need to take the	cbayer	Mar 2012	#41
There's nothing wrong with leaving this place as it is--a place where someone posts a religious	MADem	Mar 2012	#42
"they won't be convinced to shove off and leave the discussions be..."	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#43
There's no need to pee on every tree, is there?	MADem	Mar 2012	#45
Okay, so you're making an implicit request that we either	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#46
No, I'm not doing THAT, either. Jeez--love the way you're putting words in my mouth.	MADem	Mar 2012	#48
"Butt the fuck out"	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#49
Way to grab a phrase and deliberately take it out of context! Heckuva job, Brownie!	MADem	Mar 2012	#52
I never said that DU believers didn't deserve a safe-haven group	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#55
No, but you deliberately misrepresented a question and tried to suggest it was a demand.	MADem	Mar 2012	#57
I can see that atheists piss you off, but I'm not sure what I did to offend you	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#60
The only people swarming this thread with "Your shit sucks" and "That's wrong" and "I hate your	MADem	Mar 2012	#68
You wrote 546 words and still didn't answer my question	EvolveOrConvolve	Mar 2012	#70
Try reading what I wrote--you can, if you try real hard, figure it out.	MADem	Mar 2012	#78
Ah, by "shit"	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#65
There ya go--have no answer to the issue discussed, nitpick about a word instead! nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#66
I specifically responded to	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#71
No, you didn't. You took issue with a word. nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#79
I see you have nothing of substance left	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#82
Right backatcha. Look hard into that mirror now, and try not to be too sad. nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#84
Oh, please, please, please	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#93
Why don't you do it? You're the one pleading, here! nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#94
You're the one who's been ranting and raving	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#96
You apparently don't understand the difference between discussion and	MADem	Mar 2012	#100
Baloney	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#64
Those rooms are Faith Specific--there is no "Ecumenical" room. That is my point.	MADem	Mar 2012	#69
The room entitled	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#73
Yes, it IS exclusionary--if you are a Muslim, or a Jew. Or a Buddhist. Or a Zoroastrian.	MADem	Mar 2012	#80
Boy, you're determined to play the victim	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#86
It's not playing the victim to point out the obvious.	MADem	Mar 2012	#88
"why would atheists even want to post in a group entitled 'RELIGION?'"	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#95
A "stance on" religion? Or a religion, a system in opposition to Theism?	MADem	Mar 2012	#98
a lack of religion more specifically	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#102
Wow, don't go into prognostication as a vocation.	MADem	Mar 2012	#103
I'll be excusing myself now	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#104
No, I'm not. Really.	MADem	Mar 2012	#106
not buying it	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#114
Not selling anything. Have a nice day, now, and strive to be happy. nt	MADem	Mar 2012	#115
you know what? I think I will.	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#123
It's just a discussion board.	MADem	Mar 2012	#125
thanks again n/t	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#128
now where were we?	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#124
You were calling me an indecent bully because I didn't agree with you!	MADem	Mar 2012	#126
oh that's why	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#129
You didn't have to respond to my comments.	MADem	Mar 2012	#130
are you not merciful	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#131
Sheesh, not this again	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#97
You're just not taking the point I'm making.	MADem	Mar 2012	#105
Even if I don't have a RELIGION, which I don't, RELIGION still affects me daily.	Goblinmonger	Mar 2012	#109
Please read what I wrote. I am not trying to stop you from discussing anything.	MADem	Mar 2012	#112
I did read it, my response is to a specific point you make	Goblinmonger	Mar 2012	#119
So, you ignored everything else I said to focus on that issue.	MADem	Mar 2012	#120
I don't get you.	Goblinmonger	Mar 2012	#121
Well, see, I thought the point of your reply was all those other points--not the	MADem	Mar 2012	#122
this IS the "religion" forum, where people come specifically to discuss such things.	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#127
You offered no answer	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#111
I did, but you clearly didn't read it.	MADem	Mar 2012	#113
I wish someone would teach some people about vocabulary and religion.	Loudmxr	Mar 2012	#15
I think there are many theists who do not believe in all or most of the tenants in	cbayer	Mar 2012	#19
Doesn't stop people from trying to make a buck, though...	MADem	Mar 2012	#39
Defining a religion	DonCoquixote	Mar 2012	#16
Religious Belief Defined -- by the IRS, who are the last word in these matters	FarCenter	Mar 2012	#23
What do the Inland Revenue and the European tax agencies say, though?	MADem	Mar 2012	#40
UK definition	muriel_volestrangler	Mar 2012	#51
Well, in Germany, Scientology isn't a religion! To each his or her own, I suppose...!	MADem	Mar 2012	#56
I am an atheist, but not necessarily an agnostic	longship	Mar 2012	#24
Atheism is a religion?	man4allcats	Mar 2012	#30
I thought it was a	skepticscott	Mar 2012	#63
OK, so now I've read Kennedy's article and one thing is clear . . .	MrModerate	Mar 2012	#118

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