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DirkGently

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41. Atheism isn't nihilism, for God's sake.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:23 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:37 PM - Edit history (1)

And there's nothing about not buying anyone's transparently bogus bill of goods about Sky Fathers watching your diet and your sex life that's "bleak," either. Nor is the lack of literal truth in stories about deities an indication of a "purposeless" universe.

On the contrary, existence is immense, fascinating mystery. Life is a shockingly rare opportunity to Do Things and Think About Stuff. Most particles floating around out there are inert. Sure, life is short, and there's the misery and so forth, but there's obviously plenty to enjoy, and at least it's a chance to participate.

Think about that. You could be inert particles.

Saying life is bleak once its stripped of the notion that it's all about pleasing a superbeing whose ideas bear a curious similarity to some pretty backward stone-age desert dwellers doesn't make any more sense than saying there's no reason to act ethically without a set of instructions literally carved in stone, and the threat of hellfire if you don't follow them.

How small would your mind have to be to think THAT?



It depends on how you look at it. Someone raised with a strong dose of pnwmom Mar 2012 #1
That's about what I was going to say Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2012 #2
Either you or I misunderstood her post. It appeared to me that she was being sarcastic. rhett o rick Mar 2012 #7
I wasn't being sarcastic. n/t pnwmom Mar 2012 #8
I did Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2012 #14
You are implying that "religious qualms" hold people back from being self-centered rhett o rick Mar 2012 #4
Shame on me? Because I point out that progressive religious ideals can have a positive effect pnwmom Mar 2012 #9
Apparently I misunderstood. Shame on me. rhett o rick Mar 2012 #20
Isn't that the point of confession? Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2012 #15
No. Confession wouldn't mean anything if it weren't sincere. n/t pnwmom Mar 2012 #18
Selfish and self-centered like acknowledging you are gay, or use birth control... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #30
I tend to agree with Dr. Steven Weinberg. deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #48
My life isnt bleak at all. Nor am marybourg Mar 2012 #3
I feel bleak sometimes. Especially after the death of a loved one. PassingFair Mar 2012 #52
Everyone I know MinneapolisMatt Mar 2012 #5
Like the myriad followers of Ayn Rand and the objectivists. nt Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #27
For someone who claims to abhor the "guilt by association" meme, you employ it quite often. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #28
load of whoee and full of false logic and just opinion really lol msongs Mar 2012 #6
He makes a critical point about morality. Jim__ Mar 2012 #10
The religious lecturing atheists about morality is stunningly stupid. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #11
What religious lecturing atheists? Jim__ Mar 2012 #12
I contend that morality is not related to religion. rhett o rick Mar 2012 #21
I want to comment but - well what horse shit. rurallib Mar 2012 #13
Life is hard cbayer Mar 2012 #16
Dude. There's no Hell. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #17
Well, it's true that life without God can be bleak; but so can life WITH God LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #19
To say that not believing there is a God is negative is like saying not believing in unicorns rhett o rick Mar 2012 #22
Unfortunately the "there's nothing else" SATIRical Mar 2012 #23
Rubbish LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #24
Nope SATIRical Mar 2012 #25
Might that be a reflection of the access to firearms? cbayer Mar 2012 #26
I agree it doesn't have anything to do with religion LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #32
Agree. This knife cuts both ways and should not be used where it is not warranted. cbayer Mar 2012 #33
Actually, I find that belief in an afterlife makes people devalue their own lives and the lives of.. Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #31
That is a flippant plattitude SATIRical Mar 2012 #34
There are so many different interpretations of religion CJCRANE Mar 2012 #38
Yeah, the ones who think gays burn in hell but they go to heaven for shooting up a UUA church... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #40
It is not only atheists who do not believe in heaven and hell LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #42
Because spending your whole life in poverty edhopper Mar 2012 #29
Disagree with "the dark, brooding existentialist gripped by the angst of a purposeless universe" mr blur Mar 2012 #35
Atheism = Acceptance. PassingFair Mar 2012 #36
There's no reason at all to think existence is without purpose. DirkGently Mar 2012 #43
It is imbued with the purpose that we give it. PassingFair Mar 2012 #44
I agree we can choose to imbue life with purpose, but we don't understand DirkGently Mar 2012 #45
"We just don't know what it means or what the point IS." PassingFair Mar 2012 #46
Maybe you describe the purpose perfectly. To pass it on to those whom cbayer Mar 2012 #47
Being a good parent fits into purpose. I've yet to see anything pointless or purposeless in Nature. DirkGently Mar 2012 #50
There is no one-size-fits-all atheist CJCRANE Mar 2012 #37
Atheism is bleak? onager Mar 2012 #39
Atheism isn't nihilism, for God's sake. DirkGently Mar 2012 #41
This sound familiar actually... deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #49
Bleak? I hadn't noticed that, somehow. MineralMan Mar 2012 #51
What's his bias? rug Mar 2012 #53
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