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cbayer

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Wed Jun 4, 2014, 10:02 AM Jun 2014

Top Ten Q&As About God, Jesus, the Bible & LGBT People [View all]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-susan-russell/top-ten-qas-about-god-jes_b_5439597.html?utm_hp_ref=chicago&ir=Chicago

Rev. Susan Russell Become a fan
Episcopal priest and activist from Pasadena, Calif.

Posted: 06/03/2014 6:03 pm EDT Updated: 06/03/2014 6:59 pm EDT


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It's June again. Gay Pride Month. Time for parades and for festivals, for rainbow flags and dance tents. And this year we're not only celebrating Pride; we're also celebrating the first anniversary of the landmark Supreme Court decisions on DOMA and Prop 8 that paved the way for marriage equality in 19 states (plus the District of Columbia) with Utah, Oklahoma, Virginia, Michigan, Idaho, Arkansas, and Texas all waiting appellate court decisions after lower courts ruled for equality.

And we are not just celebrating; we are recommitting to continuing the struggle until liberty and justice for all really means "all." Everywhere.

So here's the 2014 version of my annual Pride Month FAQs about God, Jesus, the Bible and Gay People -- offered in hopes that together we truly can be the change we want to see in the world, and in rebuttal to the rabid rhetoric of the anti-gay religious right. They do not speak for me. And they do not speak for my church.

1. Is being gay a sin?
No. Sins are acts that separate us from God and keep us from loving our neighbors as ourselves. Being gay is not a sin. Bullying is a sin. Being hateful to other people is a sin. Putting yourself in the place of God to judge others is a sin. Being gay is not.

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Love #7 - pinto Jun 2014 #1
Seems to be a contradiction here. trotsky Jun 2014 #3
I like the last one about Pray Away the Gay. cbayer Jun 2014 #5
*sigh* trotsky Jun 2014 #2
Personally, I'll take Rev. Russell's beliefs over Fred Phelps's beliefs. stone space Jun 2014 #9
Good for you. trotsky Jun 2014 #16
If you are finding it difficult making distinctions and decisions, maybe this might help you. stone space Jun 2014 #45
Thanks for the link. trotsky Jun 2014 #46
It most certainly is the point. (nt) stone space Jun 2014 #48
In your mind, clearly. trotsky Jun 2014 #50
I suppose that explains why I am able to make a choice when I see Rev. Russell's beliefs compared... stone space Jun 2014 #51
I agree with you that it's easy to choose which beliefs are more palatable. trotsky Jun 2014 #54
Are you disappointed she's not calling it a sin? rug Jun 2014 #11
I'm disappointed she's pretending the bible doesn't. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #104
That's nice. Can you also speak for the person I asked? rug Jun 2014 #125
No, hence "I'm" rather than "They are". N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #130
Ok, next time wait until I have a question for you. rug Jun 2014 #131
Are you serious? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #134
If you want a response. rug Jun 2014 #136
Lets not pretend that's how anything works on the internet Alittleliberal Aug 2014 #162
Excellent! stone space Jun 2014 #4
Seems pretty dismissive of people's religious beliefs Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #7
I don't see that at all. stone space Jun 2014 #8
So, in essence, you are saying Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #17
Well, I tend to be a somewhat progressive and militant atheist, not a fundamentalist atheist. stone space Jun 2014 #22
Neither of those phrases really means anything. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #26
They are certainly very wrong about you, then. stone space Jun 2014 #29
Wear that meaningless label with pride, friend. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #31
Well, I did make a post in the A&A forum when asked about my atheist beliefs there, shortly after... stone space Jun 2014 #36
Since we are posting things from A/A, here's why you were blocked Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #38
I was specifically told not to use the term "militant atheist" or I would be banned from A&A. stone space Jun 2014 #53
Here is what I told you Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #56
No. I will not allow myself to be pushed into the closet. It just ain't gonna happen. stone space Jun 2014 #57
So you don't want to even discuss Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #61
Incidentally, your gratuitous use of the N-Word does nothing to bolster your case against... stone space Jun 2014 #62
"Gratuitous" Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #63
Yes, gratuititous then and gratuitous now. stone space Jun 2014 #64
How did I use it in a manner that shouldn't be used? Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #65
You did, three times. stone space Jun 2014 #67
Please Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #70
I'm not going to repost the pasages above. I just want the harassment to stop, that's all. (nt) stone space Jun 2014 #71
How did i use it as a racial epithet in the posts above? Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #72
Please stop. (nt) stone space Jun 2014 #73
Prove I used it as a racial epithet or apologize. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #74
Please stop. Our conversation is done. (nt) stone space Jun 2014 #76
So you were clearly wrong Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #77
That's it. I'm alerting. I asked you to stop nicely. (nt) stone space Jun 2014 #79
You asked him to stop doing something that he wasn't actually doing. trotsky Jun 2014 #85
How'd that work out for you? Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #101
I think that it is... stone space Aug 2014 #161
A&A is a haven for Anti-theists. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #94
We eat babies on saturday night. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #106
"I stopped posting there." Rob H. Jun 2014 #96
Careful, 'militant' will get you in trouble around here, it seems. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #34
That's a whole other discussion. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #35
My snap judgment in the A&A thread a couple weeks ago, I have set aside. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #41
I've already been banned from one forum here at DU for refusing to be pushed into the closet... stone space Jun 2014 #39
Have a gander downthread. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #40
It's something you have routinely done during your longer time here. rug Jun 2014 #13
Saved the best for last. stone space Jun 2014 #6
Some nice sentiments in it, but still, it's retconning writ large. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #10
Nice sentiments? cbayer Jun 2014 #12
Not my circus, not my monkey. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #14
Day in and day out? I continue to wonder why you stay where you are, cbayer Jun 2014 #15
I have co-workers that refuse to speak to me anymore. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #18
Honestly, I am not surprised that there are co-workers that refuse to speak to you. cbayer Jun 2014 #19
How about the violent imagery and language of the word "genocide"? trotsky Jun 2014 #21
You seem determined to misconstrue what I am saying. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #23
AC, I'm going to back away from you for now. cbayer Jun 2014 #24
I have been quite succesful with it, overall. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #25
Her reluctance is easy to understand. trotsky Jun 2014 #28
This was a pretty dissapointing thread. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #32
Try not to take it personally. trotsky Jun 2014 #33
I appreciate the reminders you dropped along the way. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #37
You're thanking someone who takes everything personally Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #90
I have observed it with other posters. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #93
Well, not wanting to get in the middle of this one, but.. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #97
You should disclose your relationship when claiming neutral observer status. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #108
I think everyone here is aware of that Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #110
No really they aren't. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #111
Playing "tag team"? That's rich coming from you Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #115
Yes we are all in a polyamorous relationship. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #120
That must explain the ubiquitous "we". rug Jun 2014 #127
Aware of what. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #113
When he says "attacking cbayer and her family" Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #109
Well, that explains something. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #114
I sent this as a PM to another member years ago about someone...I forget who... Heddi Jun 2014 #95
Yep, there are definitely people like that. trotsky Jun 2014 #100
Some folk write about themselves and pretend they're talking to someone else. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #112
The victim card will be played shortly. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #92
I have come to believe LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #42
History has shown that the firebrands are more effective early but can cbayer Jun 2014 #43
Nice unqualified absolute there. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #44
Also, it's still 'early'. The federal government is discriminating against an entire class of citize AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #47
"It's time to stop screaming at some people, imo, let along (sic) going for their jugulars" trotsky Jun 2014 #49
Like I said LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #52
Maybe we are using the word firebrand differently. cbayer Jun 2014 #55
There is a spanish sounding word beginning with an "R" and ending in "ista" that you object to LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #58
I objected to the word because it was being used exclusively cbayer Jun 2014 #60
I'm sorry, but this is just fucking rich: trotsky Jun 2014 #68
How is that any different? LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #69
This might just be what cbayer missed. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #75
Sorry missed your post. LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #98
No, I think you are clear and you are certainly within your rights cbayer Jun 2014 #78
Please read this. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #82
Call them by accurate descriptors or by their names. LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #84
I think we need some new nomenclature. cbayer Jun 2014 #86
One of the things I listed LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #88
Good points. cbayer Jun 2014 #89
Its fine LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #91
To me the main objection with the term "Movement" Lordquinton Jun 2014 #105
That's a great point. trotsky Jun 2014 #118
Of course atheism has been around a long time, but has it been organized to the cbayer Jun 2014 #132
It hasn't been organised, and it isn't really now Lordquinton Jun 2014 #143
I don't think it's a fad, in fact cbayer Jun 2014 #145
I see it more as an effort LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #139
I don't think that there is an organized effort to paint atheism as a religion. cbayer Jun 2014 #140
Its not always organized LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #142
No, it's not always organized, but sometimes it is. cbayer Jun 2014 #144
Sorry for the short reply LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #146
That's ok. There are groups working on your behalf. cbayer Jun 2014 #147
Dear gods. okasha Jun 2014 #99
Thank you for your input. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #102
Yeah, for someone who spends an awfully lot of time chiding others... trotsky Jun 2014 #20
I'm geniunely confused with the whole direction she took this. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #27
I'm not confused. trotsky Jun 2014 #30
You're confusing "progressive liberal" with "atheist". They're not the same thing. rug Jun 2014 #128
Looks like you've decided to "marginalize" yourself Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #116
Looks like you don't know what that word means. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #117
I know what the word means and I used it in the context of this group. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #121
So let me get this straight Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #123
I have a whole folder full of those sorts of alerts. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #126
Fair enough. And thanks again for a thoughtful response. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #138
Lol, he was busted. rug Jun 2014 #129
Everyone except each other okasha Jun 2014 #141
Yep! It sure makes one wonder what their true motives are in coming here. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #148
They'll never lack for self-congratulation. okasha Jun 2014 #149
Tell that Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #119
Do you ever read things in context, or is it always about your agenda? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #150
Do you ever read what you write? Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #152
I fixed it teacher. I left out a word. Thanks for your concern. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #153
I still disagree with that statement. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #155
OK. It's just an observation on my part. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #156
When I used the word 'marginalized', I was speaking to cbayer AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #157
Fair enough Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #159
You are just like so many of the high school kids I teach Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #158
I'm gay and appreciate this piece. It takes a number of voices to make a difference. Or a symphony. pinto Jun 2014 #59
I hear you, pinto. cbayer Jun 2014 #66
I may be missing something as well. Yet, it seems the tide in re: equality has turned. pinto Jun 2014 #81
I think there is also an age factor involved here. cbayer Jun 2014 #83
"Try to build bridges instead of setting them on fire". Yep. pinto Jun 2014 #87
I know Susan Russel personally. Great priest. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #80
Why present the bible as a source of authority if you're going to deliberately misinterpret it? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #103
careful, pointing out intellectual dishonesty is a hateful act. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #107
Really? Why is that Warren? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #122
Well my guess would be a vast insecurity Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #124
Is there something wrong with saying the bible is wrong? cbayer Jun 2014 #133
Nothing whatsoever, but that's the opposite of what she's doing. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #135
I have read this interpretation before and I think you have to go with what you have. cbayer Jun 2014 #137
As many atheists Dorian Gray Jun 2014 #151
I wouldn't say most - I'd say all. trotsky Jun 2014 #154
I'll have to paraphrase New Testament textual critic Bart D. Ehrman... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2014 #160
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