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Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:42 AM

92. And what does any of that have to do with my OP?

Sounds like equivocating or being deliberately obtuse. In addition, you didn't answer the question, so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

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115 replies	Author	Time	Post
Simple question for religious people, particularly of the Abrahamic faiths. [View all]	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	OP
Good question	Shadowflash	Mar 2012	#1
Doesn't sound like you want much of a discussion	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#2
K&R.	COLGATE4	Mar 2012	#3
is that a yes?	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#4
+1	cbayer	Mar 2012	#7
Doesn't sound like you want to give an answer.	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#8
Actually, you've changed the question	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#11
How about jut answering the question in the OP?	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#39
I don't understand the original question	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#41
Its a simple question, if you can't understand a hypothetical, that's your problem. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#50
Communitication is a two way street	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#55
Both. I don't understand what is so difficult, or even why you need to be so evasive...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#84
I don't know	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#86
You keep splitting hairs and trying to deflect from one simple question, by reading...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#90
Sorry	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#94
You don't understand? Or are you being deliberately obtuse?	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#57
In the Abrahamic tradition	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#59
It would seem that "deliberately obtuse" is the answer.	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#61
What didn't you understand?	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#63
I don't understand how you don't understand.	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#64
Only simple to him	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#67
What possible discussion could take place? Of course I made up my mind...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#23
Closed mind	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#25
Really? What is there to understand, enlighten me. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#29
How do you enlighten a closed mind?	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#42
I think most believers would say no because they despite their best	snagglepuss	Mar 2012	#5
A wanna be child murderer is an ideal to strive for?	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#28
Like the Oedipus Complex, it's symbolic.	snagglepuss	Mar 2012	#34
Symbolic of what? Valuing gods above human beings?	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#35
Absolutely not, as that would be contrary to the character of God as described in the NT. And	humblebum	Mar 2012	#6
Hahahhahaha	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#9
Haha. What a copout.	Shadowflash	Mar 2012	#10
I see you didn't reflect on why you were blocked from this group.	laconicsax	Mar 2012	#12
You must have something against honest answers, if that	humblebum	Mar 2012	#13
Red herring flamebait is an honest answer?	laconicsax	Mar 2012	#14
The "flamebait," Sir, is the original post itself IMHO, and my response	humblebum	Mar 2012	#15
Your response CONTAINED an honest reply. It also contained flamebait.	laconicsax	Mar 2012	#17
If the original post was not flamebait, then neither was my response.nt	humblebum	Mar 2012	#21
If he can do as he pleases, can he not do it again?	dmallind	Mar 2012	#20
I gave you my answer. But, religious people are not bound by rigid groupthink. nt	humblebum	Mar 2012	#22
It's your answer I'm looking for info on though	dmallind	Mar 2012	#27
I can understand your wondering. Do I believe God is sovereign? Yes. And,	humblebum	Mar 2012	#45
Bit of a limitation even so but I get it. Thanks. nt	dmallind	Mar 2012	#47
Really? Jesus told parents to kill their disobedient children, for that is the Law. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#31
Do you not see the contradictions in your own post?	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#60
Yeh. Uh huh. nt	humblebum	Mar 2012	#66
I tried	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#69
First of all, one can find contradictions almost anywhere if you look for them. And	humblebum	Mar 2012	#72
lol n/t	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#73
Yeh? Uh huh? That's ALL you can come up with?	cleanhippie	Mar 2012	#78
Yawn ZZZZZZZZzzzz.....	humblebum	Mar 2012	#82
I absolutely would not kill a person of faith to support an agenda of organized atheism.	ZombieHorde	Mar 2012	#87
Now that would push anybody over the edge. nt	humblebum	Mar 2012	#88
Getting people to open their minds just a a bit is a tricky task.	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#16
Sorry...did you say a rational approach to theological inquiry?	laconicsax	Mar 2012	#18
Please, enlighten me.	Shadowflash	Mar 2012	#19
This question isn't based on a fundamentalist reading of anything...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#24
Not even close	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#26
I'm talking about speaking to their hearts, sending signs, etc.	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#30
Which is in conflict with Abraham	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#40
So what? That doesn't stop people from killing their own kids due to their religious beliefs...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#49
Wow, there's a detour	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#54
I see that you would not	edhopper	Mar 2012	#32
I like what Dylan had to say	edhopper	Mar 2012	#33
There is far more than just what goes on in the academy.	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#43
Yes, we often criticize the more literal minded believers	edhopper	Mar 2012	#58
ed, of course fundamentalist religion does an amazing amount of harm.	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#65
But this is the Religion Forum	edhopper	Mar 2012	#71
I like to think that this religious forum--actually a safe group,	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#107
See the difference is	edhopper	Mar 2012	#109
There is a difference between	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#111
I have been part of scientific discussions	edhopper	Mar 2012	#112
No evidence?	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#113
I have no need for	edhopper	Mar 2012	#114
I have no need for a lot of things	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#115
What is the confidence that it is god giving the order?	SATIRical	Mar 2012	#36
Would you kill other humans because your government told you to?	cbayer	Mar 2012	#37
No	edhopper	Mar 2012	#38
Doesn't God rank immeasurably higher than any earthly power though?	dmallind	Mar 2012	#44
Exactly.	cbayer	Mar 2012	#52
No, in addition, how many honor killings, children killed with accusations of witchcraft...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#48
I don't know. How many?	cbayer	Mar 2012	#51
None	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#56
You are splitting hairs, the way its ordered is moot if the people committing the acts believe...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#74
Source?	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#76
This isn't limited to Jonestown, which is an atrocious example anyways...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#80
Okay, but these don't go to the question in the OP	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#85
Oh please, that's the best example you can come up with, chemotherapy?	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#89
But "it" is not the original posters question	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#95
Why does it have to emulate Abraham?	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#98
That was my question	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#100
I made that vague on purpose, because it is different for every person...	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#101
I'd have different answers	zipplewrath	Mar 2012	#102
Sadly I have and sadly I will	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#62
deacon. I once served as a civilian chaplain at Air Force Bases that were too remote	Thats my opinion	Mar 2012	#68
admirable	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#70
I was aware that you are in the military, but was not targetting this question at you in particular.	cbayer	Mar 2012	#75
didn't mean to imply that I was targeted, just a preface.	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#77
I can't answer that question.	cbayer	Mar 2012	#79
I must admit, I have no idea what it is you DO believe	deacon_sephiroth	Mar 2012	#81
Not surprised, because I'm not sure what I believe and it's always been	cbayer	Mar 2012	#83
Nope	Dorian Gray	Mar 2012	#46
Isn't that	tama	Mar 2012	#53
You want my honest answer?	Lydia Leftcoast	Mar 2012	#91
And what does any of that have to do with my OP?	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#92
I don't have any children, but no, if I heard voices in my head	Lydia Leftcoast	Mar 2012	#96
well, we all know the old joke about making assumptions.	kwassa	Mar 2012	#104
There's a problem with your interpretation.	laconicsax	Mar 2012	#93
See, you're taking the fundmentalist approach that says it's a true story	Lydia Leftcoast	Mar 2012	#97
So, if the story is a parable and allegories, what lessons are to be learned in them? n/t	Humanist_Activist	Mar 2012	#99
In the case of Abraham, I've already explained in the previous post	Lydia Leftcoast	Mar 2012	#103
You just repeated my point while maligning it.	laconicsax	Mar 2012	#108
On one level it is	Lydia Leftcoast	Mar 2012	#110
KONY 2012	tama	Mar 2012	#105
If God told me to kill my child	waddirum	Mar 2012	#106

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