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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:39 AM

80. Get off Sheldrake and answer my quandary.

Its very simple - Your brain: the unfolding of atoms in accordance with physical laws. What basis do you have for the absurd notion that your so called "mind" interacts or interferes in anyway with the unfolding of your brain? How dare you make claims like "I choose to.." or "I decide" when clearly everything you do is dictated by the unfolding of cold physical laws playing out determinstically in the atoms that compose your brain?

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84 replies	Author	Time	Post
There is a lot of talk in this forum about god [View all]	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	OP
Lol - you first.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#1
I can not believe in the god of the Bible	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#5
Fair enough. We can just say what we don't think god is.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#9
A Manifestation Of Man	1ProudAtheist	Feb 2012	#17
If that is what works for you, go with it.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#18
A question with many answers. It's personal and it is all about faith. I'm	virgogal	Feb 2012	#2
Those are the answers I am looking for	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#6
If it's personal you get to decide for yourself what it is.	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#37
By defintion, God cannot be defined.	rug	Feb 2012	#3
I wonder how you can say that without providing a definition??	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#7
The only definition that's accurate is limitlessness.	rug	Feb 2012	#20
Okay	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#21
Conscious, limitless existence.	rug	Feb 2012	#22
Something other than the kind of thing you can prove doesn't exist	Silent3	Feb 2012	#4
I know you can do better than that	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#8
He Who Cannot Be Disproved can do better than that	Silent3	Feb 2012	#16
Based on your responses so far, I would say this is primarily goading.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#10
I am not goading	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#12
I like your definition.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#13
Thank you	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#15
There isn't one. You only get to have A definition if you pick A true religion.	saras	Feb 2012	#11
Would post #12 kinda fit into this??	Angry Dragon	Feb 2012	#14
God	bongbong	Feb 2012	#19
How about this	edhopper	Feb 2012	#23
If there is, I would answer thusly	cbayer	Feb 2012	#26
Its like asking: Where in this movie IS the producer?	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#28
Yes I effect the physical world.	edhopper	Feb 2012	#29
As soon as one encounters the wave theory of matter, physics and metaphysics blur together.	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#30
Bohm was an interesting and very strange character	onager	Feb 2012	#31
Gardner defends a staunchly positivist viewpoint I no longer share.	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#32
I became	tama	Feb 2012	#61
More pointers!	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#76
Ah, those oldies goodies!	tama	Feb 2012	#77
Anyone who wants me to dismiss Sarfatti and Bohm's holographic theories out of hand	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#84
Well, Uri Geller is definitely woo.	onager	Feb 2012	#78
Shall we drop Bohm into the same scientific trash bin as Newton and Kepler then?	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#81
U.G. Krishnamurti	tama	Feb 2012	#82
My answer to #5 is perfectly rational.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#40
Sorry,	edhopper	Feb 2012	#42
Well now there's an interesting read. Sheldrake. Never heard of him, thanks.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#52
It's related	tama	Feb 2012	#59
Sheldrake's empirical evidence?	edhopper	Feb 2012	#69
Nope nt	tama	Feb 2012	#73
Thanks Tama.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#79
Get off Sheldrake and answer my quandary.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#80
Reductivist nonesense.	edhopper	Feb 2012	#83
He? That's a pretdty bad start nt	Thats my opinion	Feb 2012	#36
Yup	tama	Feb 2012	#62
Most objective god-concepts are cultural constructs, which means they vary as much as cultures do.	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#24
Consensus forming?	tama	Feb 2012	#27
The Valfather	Tyrs WolfDaemon	Feb 2012	#25
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia...	onager	Feb 2012	#33
Defining God	Thats my opinion	Feb 2012	#34
That is a well-thought and insightful post, and I agree.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#35
That is a good question	tama	Feb 2012	#49
Very nice.	GliderGuider	Feb 2012	#38
So you've basically dismissed the religious beliefs	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#39
Its like this.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#41
Rashomon	cbayer	Feb 2012	#43
Your bias really is ridiculous	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#46
Oh dear. You are confusing opinion with bias.	cbayer	Feb 2012	#53
Your "opinion" is biased, so no...there's no confusion on my part.	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#56
Petty politics	tama	Feb 2012	#60
Yes, post #43 was politics, and rather petty and lame to boot.	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#66
I liked it too	tama	Feb 2012	#68
That analogy assumes that this "god" is an actual thing outside the window, like an SUV.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#44
My analogy doesn't dismiss that possibility at all.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#47
Are you familiar	tama	Feb 2012	#50
Thanks for reminding me of that! Though it takes on a different meaning on DU...	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#51
Obviously	tama	Feb 2012	#58
Nice try, but big fail at understanding	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#45
The fail is yours.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#48
And now you backpedal completely from your analogy	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#55
All I hear is more sectarian shouting about how I should think.	napoleon_in_rags	Feb 2012	#57
This post was hidden by jury decision.	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#65
"an idea so clearly true that everybody can get behind it"	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#63
And yet	tama	Feb 2012	#64
No, there isn't 'a huge amount' of such evidence	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#67
Denial of evidence	tama	Feb 2012	#71
hmmm	handmade34	Feb 2012	#54
This is a pretty good summary IMO. And today, so much is based on fear - that's	RKP5637	Feb 2012	#72
IMO God is a myth used by those wanting power to seek, gain and maintain that power. God is	RKP5637	Feb 2012	#70
It can be that too	tama	Feb 2012	#74
Yep!!! n/t	RKP5637	Feb 2012	#75

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