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tama

(9,137 posts)
71. Denial of evidence
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:33 AM
Feb 2012

Best know data of case studies is from Ian Stevenson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation_research
Check also the quote from Sagan. Of course the anecdotal evidence is not limited to the 2500 case studies from Stevensen. The "birthmark phenomenon" is especially interesting.

Rest of your post is just presumptions from a materialist belief system (e.g. memories are nothing but neurology), which there is no reason to presuppose as The Truth, and as said, interpretation of the evidence remembering other lives is another matter and does not necessarily involve a personal soul jumping from body to body.

Lol - you first. cbayer Feb 2012 #1
I can not believe in the god of the Bible Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #5
Fair enough. We can just say what we don't think god is. cbayer Feb 2012 #9
A Manifestation Of Man 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #17
If that is what works for you, go with it. cbayer Feb 2012 #18
A question with many answers. It's personal and it is all about faith. I'm virgogal Feb 2012 #2
Those are the answers I am looking for Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #6
If it's personal you get to decide for yourself what it is. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #37
By defintion, God cannot be defined. rug Feb 2012 #3
I wonder how you can say that without providing a definition?? Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #7
The only definition that's accurate is limitlessness. rug Feb 2012 #20
Okay Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #21
Conscious, limitless existence. rug Feb 2012 #22
Something other than the kind of thing you can prove doesn't exist Silent3 Feb 2012 #4
I know you can do better than that Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #8
He Who Cannot Be Disproved can do better than that Silent3 Feb 2012 #16
Based on your responses so far, I would say this is primarily goading. cbayer Feb 2012 #10
I am not goading Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #12
I like your definition. cbayer Feb 2012 #13
Thank you Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #15
There isn't one. You only get to have A definition if you pick A true religion. saras Feb 2012 #11
Would post #12 kinda fit into this?? Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #14
God bongbong Feb 2012 #19
How about this edhopper Feb 2012 #23
If there is, I would answer thusly cbayer Feb 2012 #26
Its like asking: Where in this movie IS the producer? napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #28
Yes I effect the physical world. edhopper Feb 2012 #29
As soon as one encounters the wave theory of matter, physics and metaphysics blur together. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #30
Bohm was an interesting and very strange character onager Feb 2012 #31
Gardner defends a staunchly positivist viewpoint I no longer share. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #32
I became tama Feb 2012 #61
More pointers! GliderGuider Feb 2012 #76
Ah, those oldies goodies! tama Feb 2012 #77
Anyone who wants me to dismiss Sarfatti and Bohm's holographic theories out of hand GliderGuider Feb 2012 #84
Well, Uri Geller is definitely woo. onager Feb 2012 #78
Shall we drop Bohm into the same scientific trash bin as Newton and Kepler then? GliderGuider Feb 2012 #81
U.G. Krishnamurti tama Feb 2012 #82
My answer to #5 is perfectly rational. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #40
Sorry, edhopper Feb 2012 #42
Well now there's an interesting read. Sheldrake. Never heard of him, thanks. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #52
It's related tama Feb 2012 #59
Sheldrake's empirical evidence? edhopper Feb 2012 #69
Nope nt tama Feb 2012 #73
Thanks Tama. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #79
Get off Sheldrake and answer my quandary. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #80
Reductivist nonesense. edhopper Feb 2012 #83
He? That's a pretdty bad start nt Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #36
Yup tama Feb 2012 #62
Most objective god-concepts are cultural constructs, which means they vary as much as cultures do. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #24
Consensus forming? tama Feb 2012 #27
The Valfather Tyrs WolfDaemon Feb 2012 #25
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia... onager Feb 2012 #33
Defining God Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #34
That is a well-thought and insightful post, and I agree. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #35
That is a good question tama Feb 2012 #49
Very nice. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #38
So you've basically dismissed the religious beliefs skepticscott Feb 2012 #39
Its like this. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #41
Rashomon cbayer Feb 2012 #43
Your bias really is ridiculous skepticscott Feb 2012 #46
Oh dear. You are confusing opinion with bias. cbayer Feb 2012 #53
Your "opinion" is biased, so no...there's no confusion on my part. skepticscott Feb 2012 #56
Petty politics tama Feb 2012 #60
Yes, post #43 was politics, and rather petty and lame to boot. skepticscott Feb 2012 #66
I liked it too tama Feb 2012 #68
That analogy assumes that this "god" is an actual thing outside the window, like an SUV. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #44
My analogy doesn't dismiss that possibility at all. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #47
Are you familiar tama Feb 2012 #50
Thanks for reminding me of that! Though it takes on a different meaning on DU... napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #51
Obviously tama Feb 2012 #58
Nice try, but big fail at understanding skepticscott Feb 2012 #45
The fail is yours. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #48
And now you backpedal completely from your analogy skepticscott Feb 2012 #55
All I hear is more sectarian shouting about how I should think. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #57
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #65
"an idea so clearly true that everybody can get behind it" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #63
And yet tama Feb 2012 #64
No, there isn't 'a huge amount' of such evidence muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #67
Denial of evidence tama Feb 2012 #71
hmmm handmade34 Feb 2012 #54
This is a pretty good summary IMO. And today, so much is based on fear - that's RKP5637 Feb 2012 #72
IMO God is a myth used by those wanting power to seek, gain and maintain that power. God is RKP5637 Feb 2012 #70
It can be that too tama Feb 2012 #74
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #75
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