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skepticscott

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36. Let's see now
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 11:00 PM
Dec 2013

Within the space of one short subthread, you accused me of snark, wallowing in bitterness, living in a hole, being a Grinch, pissing on other people, acting like a teenager and being immature. Oh, and told ME to give it a rest on Christmas.

I'll pass on your "good will" and Christmas cheer, thanks. I'd hate to see you when you're hostile the rest of the year.

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2013 #1
I can understand Christians observing today edhopper Dec 2013 #3
I think a lot of it is recycled myth and allegory. riqster Dec 2013 #2
Yes, edhopper Dec 2013 #5
A lot of his creation myth was nicked from previous versions. riqster Dec 2013 #7
Came from trying to fit him into the prophecies about the Messiah... truebluegreen Dec 2013 #9
Putting aside historical/religious/mythological context... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #4
Merry Christmas anyway riqster Dec 2013 #8
That is really nice, rigster. cbayer Dec 2013 #15
Ummmm ... just a small problem with what you do believe intaglio Dec 2013 #14
Peace, intaglio, but did you miss what I wrote? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #98
Humans have powerful imaginations and it's not all bad BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #6
Huh! A few days ago some Jehova's Whitnesses came to my door. OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2013 #10
JWs also use their own translation of the Bible n/t intaglio Dec 2013 #16
I did not know that. OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2013 #17
married Mary and god have sex behind Joseph's back. high morals indeed nt msongs Dec 2013 #11
Well Mary edhopper Dec 2013 #12
Does it matter? cbayer Dec 2013 #13
Yes, and we all know skepticscott Dec 2013 #19
Give it a rest. It's Christmas. kwassa Dec 2013 #23
No one is forcing you to participate here on your sacred day skepticscott Dec 2013 #24
No one is forcing to you to wallow in your bitterness, either. kwassa Dec 2013 #28
Apparently YOU really don't want to give it a rest, do you? skepticscott Dec 2013 #32
Dismiss all you want. kwassa Dec 2013 #34
Let's see now skepticscott Dec 2013 #36
Your attacking someone's religion on one of the most important holy days of the year does provoke me kwassa Dec 2013 #37
The negative effects of religion, superstition skepticscott Dec 2013 #54
A very merry Christmas to you, kwassa. cbayer Dec 2013 #25
Thank you, cbayer, and I hope you had a great Christmas, too. kwassa Dec 2013 #29
Very low key here. cbayer Dec 2013 #30
Same to you, cbayer. kwassa Dec 2013 #31
Merry Xmas 840high Dec 2013 #159
Actually it matters quite a bit. trotsky Dec 2013 #40
Lol! The little drummer boy is destroying anti-poverty programs. rug Dec 2013 #41
Then there's the assertion okasha Dec 2013 #74
That is very well said. edhopper Dec 2013 #42
I don't presume to speak for Justin, okasha Dec 2013 #61
Kind of circular. edhopper Dec 2013 #64
It does interest me to some 3xtent but it will nevrr stop my from being a believer. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #67
That is how I took it. edhopper Dec 2013 #69
I understand. no worries. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #70
I never said that. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #65
Is the actual story important to you. edhopper Dec 2013 #71
Well the birth narrative is suspect to a good extent and arguments can be made that it draws on hrmjustin Dec 2013 #72
Thanks edhopper Dec 2013 #78
+100 skepticscott Dec 2013 #49
I believe it. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #18
I think it happened that way Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #20
He was born, lived, and died. rug Dec 2013 #21
Apparently he was a working class Jew (mother Jewish, father Gentile). pinto Dec 2013 #22
... father gentile? IphengeniaBlumgarten Dec 2013 #26
That's what I've read. Who knows? I think many of the Gospels may have been written, pinto Dec 2013 #27
Bishop John Spong, James Tabor okasha Dec 2013 #33
Two gospels explicitly claim trace Joseph's family back to David. Both do it differently. enki23 Dec 2013 #157
Both gospels do in fact okasha Dec 2013 #161
He meant edhopper Dec 2013 #163
Jesus, that was an obtuse "objection". enki23 Dec 2013 #166
Also edhopper Dec 2013 #168
We have no idea whether okasha Dec 2013 #169
Especially edhopper Dec 2013 #170
And all these relatives edhopper Dec 2013 #172
But... Shadowflash Dec 2013 #180
A minority view holds Matthew's genealogy traces Mary's line back to David Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #182
I don't believe in every aspect but I believe that it happened. el_bryanto Dec 2013 #35
That's fair. (n/t) spin Dec 2013 #183
Well, if Jesus died on the cross, he had to born somehow. goldent Dec 2013 #38
If we put aside the supernatural aspects edhopper Dec 2013 #39
I assume the Gospel stories were passed down orally goldent Dec 2013 #43
Nor is there really a need to pick your family stories apart. trotsky Dec 2013 #44
If you are interested in seeing how edhopper Dec 2013 #45
Well, Jesus' mother was alive at the time of his Crucifixion... goldent Dec 2013 #51
And his brother James was alive 30 years later. okasha Dec 2013 #59
I have always wished we knew the names of the sisters arely staircase Dec 2013 #174
Here is my problem edhopper Dec 2013 #177
The Herod/newborn killing story probably isn't historically accurate arely staircase Dec 2013 #181
And yet people believe it to be true edhopper Dec 2013 #184
And that surprises you? cbayer Dec 2013 #185
Sure arely staircase Dec 2013 #186
So why believe any of the supernatural stuff? edhopper Dec 2013 #187
I do not believe one must be a christian to uphold or live by arely staircase Dec 2013 #188
I get that edhopper Dec 2013 #189
supernatural elements arely staircase Dec 2013 #190
I wasn't trying for you to satisfy my mind. edhopper Dec 2013 #191
cool happy new year nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #192
The veracity and accuracy of these stories matter only to biblical scholars cbayer Dec 2013 #46
I agree with your first part edhopper Dec 2013 #47
I don't disagree that many christians think the stories are factually true, cbayer Dec 2013 #53
But if they believe something happened that did not happen edhopper Dec 2013 #57
So what? cbayer Dec 2013 #58
Well I certainly think acting solely on faith is wrong. edhopper Dec 2013 #60
Faith doesn't exclude ethics or morals. cbayer Dec 2013 #62
That is a very interesting claim, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 #66
Well first edhopper Dec 2013 #68
Publishers have changed textbooks due to people's beliefs in the nativity story? cbayer Dec 2013 #73
The very article you posted a few days ago edhopper Dec 2013 #75
And it's an important article in the debate, imo. cbayer Dec 2013 #77
I don't think I have been obnoxious to the Christians here who have answered. edhopper Dec 2013 #81
No, I have trouble with your position that your beliefs are right cbayer Dec 2013 #82
It seems to me that you're the one adding the objectionable part. eomer Dec 2013 #101
What things do I constantly chastise for, eomer? cbayer Dec 2013 #102
So, cbayer, in your wonderful, open, tolerant world... trotsky Dec 2013 #103
You constantly chastise people for saying what they believe, if what they believe entails that... eomer Dec 2013 #104
Chastise or disagree? cbayer Dec 2013 #106
Chastise. eomer Dec 2013 #108
edhopper and I are just fine. cbayer Dec 2013 #109
I welcome people disagreeing with me and disagreeing with others. That's what I'm here for. eomer Dec 2013 #110
My ears are burning. edhopper Dec 2013 #111
I apologize for speaking for you, edhopper. cbayer Dec 2013 #113
I wish you luck, ed, in maintaining your status as a person worthy of interaction. trotsky Dec 2013 #114
How big is your ignore list? rug Dec 2013 #115
Well,it's quite interesting that you find what you do to be a-ok, but cbayer Dec 2013 #112
What you did was take reasonable, civil discussion and attempt to conflate it with hate. eomer Dec 2013 #116
I am quite civil, as the person I was discussing this with has verified. cbayer Dec 2013 #117
You were the one out of bounds. eomer Dec 2013 #118
The irony here is, well, stupefying. cbayer Dec 2013 #122
Sure, here's hoping you can stick to the topic at hand and resist mis-characterizing as bigotry... eomer Dec 2013 #123
I think we can both agree to do that, eomer. cbayer Dec 2013 #126
I think a very good place to start, cbayer, trotsky Dec 2013 #128
Fallacy Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #97
But every time you and others okasha Dec 2013 #63
If you ask me if all Christians who believe there is a God are wrong. edhopper Dec 2013 #76
But that would assume that you are right. cbayer Dec 2013 #79
Of course i assume I am right edhopper Dec 2013 #83
And you are convinced you are right with the same amount of evidence - none. cbayer Dec 2013 #86
Been there, done that edhopper Dec 2013 #90
I disagree. cbayer Dec 2013 #92
I was referring just to your response edhopper Dec 2013 #94
I appreciate that clarification, edhopper. cbayer Dec 2013 #95
Yes to all edhopper Dec 2013 #96
Ah, but see, the position of Atheism is actually SUPPORTED by a lack of evidence. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #121
What a fallacious argument. cbayer Dec 2013 #124
Of course I doubt there is a single person edhopper Dec 2013 #127
Magical thinking is a psychiatric terms and I generally cbayer Dec 2013 #129
My post covered various things edhopper Dec 2013 #151
Well, when it comes to people who pray rather than seek medical care, cbayer Dec 2013 #153
Speaking of fallacious arguments. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #134
Exactly. The inability to detect something does not lend cbayer Dec 2013 #136
Yes, the dolphins exist. And primary examples of INCREDIBLE numbers of species that cannot be detect AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #137
Have any believers here told you any of the things you list? cbayer Dec 2013 #139
Yes, many times. With references to their source material. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #140
Here, on this site, people have told you you are going to hell? cbayer Dec 2013 #143
Again, you turn the discussion to personal attacks. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #144
What personal attacks? Do you not think that the way you are expressing yourself cbayer Dec 2013 #146
It is not. It is an attack on an idea some people hold. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #148
Suit yourself, but it seems like hairsplitting to me. cbayer Dec 2013 #150
"What exact evidence points to god as a fabrication?". Well, there's this... cleanhippie Dec 2013 #165
Roll three dice. Statistically you can predict with some measure of certainty a result. pinto Dec 2013 #87
I really don't know what you are trying to say edhopper Dec 2013 #89
Kind of awkwardly made. A stab to move beyond a right and wrong framework. pinto Dec 2013 #91
Well I can understand edhopper Dec 2013 #93
Not just score a point. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #120
Society will be fixed primarily through legislative means, which is why I frequent this board. cbayer Dec 2013 #125
Problem is, the sack has specifications written on it, as to what is allowed in the sack. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #135
Oh, there is no doubt that there is tremendous distrust and prejudice towards atheists. cbayer Dec 2013 #138
I'm pretty sure black people didn't overcome bigotry in this country by being tolerant of bigotry. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #142
Of course they didn't. I am not suggesting that bigotry be tolerated. cbayer Dec 2013 #145
I'm not saying the group is defective. Well, I said something similar way upthread, but it was about AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #147
Defective for you, but not for others. cbayer Dec 2013 #149
I find the writings of the biblical scholars fascinating goldent Dec 2013 #105
Lol. I totally agree about you and your wife and the timeline. cbayer Dec 2013 #107
There is zero verifiable specific evidence other than generalities of the era. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #141
The census that caused Joseph and Mary edhopper Dec 2013 #152
The census may not have been Roman. It could have been in the territory of Herod under his Leontius Dec 2013 #154
There was a census, okasha Dec 2013 #155
This is what I mean by inconsistency... goldent Dec 2013 #156
Things either happened or they didn't edhopper Dec 2013 #158
I agree that it is impossible to know for sure goldent Dec 2013 #162
But it possible to surmise what is plausible and what is not. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #167
He was born and that is all I really need. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #48
Seriously? skepticscott Dec 2013 #50
What do you want me to say? hrmjustin Dec 2013 #52
Oh? Did god forget how to manufacture new humans out of the dust of the ground? AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #119
Myth, all around. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #55
I tend to believe that Mary was a virgin but I understand that is hard for some to believe. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #56
I believe the Biblical version. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #80
Even in the face of historical evidence edhopper Dec 2013 #84
Historical evidence? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #85
There are many places on the web to edhopper Dec 2013 #88
I'll try to read this weekend. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #99
no problem. edhopper Dec 2013 #100
I wish he was here today Marblehead Dec 2013 #130
mary could`t travel to bethlehem on a donkey so.... madrchsod Dec 2013 #131
Bull***t larkrake Dec 2013 #132
Wow. You might win today's prize for most off the wall post! cbayer Dec 2013 #133
Are you talking about edhopper Dec 2013 #171
I believe. 840high Dec 2013 #160
Everything edhopper Dec 2013 #164
as a Christian I accept and believe the creeds arely staircase Dec 2013 #173
Of course it creates cognitive dissonance edhopper Dec 2013 #175
fair enough nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #176
Compelling narrative but wobbly history. eom saltpoint Dec 2013 #178
I Believe Jesus Existed On the Road Dec 2013 #179
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