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Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
98. Sure seemed to me you were saying that.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:11 PM
Nov 2013

And, on re-reading what you wrote, I see no reason to change my opinion.

I have been slapped down for calling bigoted atheists on their bigotry. Yes, you atheists don't like it when you spout bigotry and I have the audacity to say, "You are making bigoted statements". Yet when I am called a bigot, this is declared perfectly OK. Unlike you, I am standing up for a single standard: If I am damned for calling someone a bigot -- because this is deemed a personal attack -- then when I am called a bigot, the person making the personal attack on me should be treated the same way I was.

Your whine about pots and kettles, geese and ganders simply goes to show that you are being hypocritical. You don't want to be called a bigot, but you see nothing wrong with me being called a bigot. The double standard is all on your side, not mine.

Christian privilege, in a nutshell Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #1
This is a city full of Catholics. I think he can add a RC priest. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #8
That's right, the city is full of Catholics... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #9
There are plenty of progressive prieststo put on the team. this was a mistake. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #10
It doesn't matter if they are progressives or bokononists Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #22
They are not obligated. Donahue is a joke that wants an issue. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #23
I'm sure you'd like to dismiss him skepticscott Nov 2013 #88
I know thete are people whpo agree with him but he is a joke. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #89
Guess what? whathehell Nov 2013 #76
I've already indicated as much Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #78
It's a city full of atheists, too. Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #14
I agree. There should be represented. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #15
Why should atheists be deliberately represented? skepticscott Nov 2013 #35
Beccause they are apart of my city and they should be represented. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #36
The Russian mob is part of your city skepticscott Nov 2013 #37
I said they should be included because I believe they should be. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #42
Basing political decisions on "faith" and "belief" skepticscott Nov 2013 #43
Pretended? The things you say. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #44
And why will he have to rely equally greatly on atheist leaders? skepticscott Nov 2013 #45
ok well judge me all you want. Leave me out of it. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #46
I'd be happy to leave you out of everything skepticscott Nov 2013 #47
Oh Lord help me! hrmjustin Nov 2013 #48
Lol! rug Nov 2013 #49
Let us know when His help arrives, willya? skepticscott Nov 2013 #50
oh he did help me. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #55
Wow, you really didn't mean it skepticscott Nov 2013 #57
Are you asking me how I wo6ld handle my mayor calling on a different God? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #58
Lol. It's one of those okasha Nov 2013 #53
Yeah something like that. lol. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #56
I wouldn't want my mayor to rely at all on religious leaders. eomer Nov 2013 #52
Any mayor in this city who does not rely on community leaders is not a good mayor. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #54
You aren't going to argue this away with one-sentence tropes... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #59
Do you agree thatbhe has a right to pick religious leaders on his transition team? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #60
If you're going to take that angle, trotsky Nov 2013 #62
I asked a question. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #63
No it isn't. It's about establishing priorities and making plans to achieve them. rug Nov 2013 #61
As was said before Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #64
You're right, I was too broad-brushed about motivations behind charity of religious groups. eomer Nov 2013 #77
Sorry that you had such a bad experience Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #80
What I'm saying is that there is a movement called the faith-based initiative... eomer Nov 2013 #85
Religious leaders represent no part of the people? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #91
Should they be appointed to positions of influence in secular government... trotsky Nov 2013 #96
Should they be denied a part in forming the mayor's agenda because they are religious leaders? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #97
No, this is about getting special privileges simply by being a "religious leader." trotsky Nov 2013 #99
How would you know? rug Nov 2013 #18
I know Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #19
If you look closely, the people on the list are not there for their belief - or nonbelief - but rug Nov 2013 #21
I'm assuming you misclicked Lordquinton Nov 2013 #30
Your assumption is incorrect. rug Nov 2013 #31
So your Anti Atheist bias is showing Lordquinton Nov 2013 #32
Are you calling me a bigot, quinton? rug Nov 2013 #33
Don't you hate when you don't get the jury results you wanted? Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #39
Tell me about it. Isn't that what you use this forum for? rug Nov 2013 #40
Pick a side. It's really easier to have a conversation when you do. Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #38
Let me clear this up for you. rug Nov 2013 #41
How does he know there are no atheists on the list? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #65
I expect he means representatives of atheist organizations. rug Nov 2013 #68
OK, that makes sense Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #71
What a glorious hodgepodge...I'm sure they're all very focused on the transition BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #51
He could but he didn't. last1standing Nov 2013 #26
75% of the voters brought him there. I agree Donahue is a bigot and a jerk, and he does hrmjustin Nov 2013 #29
Yeah, Bill Donahue really represents no one except himself. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #66
Yeah he is a joke. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #67
That's a pretty lame joke. trotsky Nov 2013 #82
Guess we should ignore the Catholic League "at our peril" skepticscott Nov 2013 #87
Why should ANY religious leader speak on civil rights in a secular setting? rug Nov 2013 #2
Thank you rug. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #7
Wouldn't all of those be better served by the leaders of secular political/activist groups? Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #11
Better? Not necessarily. It depends on who it is and what is said. rug Nov 2013 #12
Are you saying religious leaders and people can not lead movements. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #17
No, I'm saying our public officials shouldn't give them special consideration because... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #24
I can agree with that. I doubt de Blasio will. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #25
MLK was the mayor of DC? Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #13
Coyness is not your most flattering attribute. rug Nov 2013 #16
In most if not all cities of any size, okasha Nov 2013 #20
The difference is between "can" and "must." last1standing Nov 2013 #27
Donohue's an ass. DeBlasio is consulting with those he thinks will best help him run the city. rug Nov 2013 #28
Why are there ANY spirit-worshipers on any transition team? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #3
Despite the questionable (at best!) need for religious leaders on a transition team, trotsky Nov 2013 #4
What the hell is a 60-person transition team anyway? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #5
"That is essentially a bureaucratic function, not a political one." trotsky Nov 2013 #6
Apparently, you believe that believers are ipso factp idiots. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #69
You could SAY that skepticscott Nov 2013 #72
No problemo Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #75
BWAH HA HA HA trotsky Nov 2013 #79
I notice that you did not apologize for implying that I lied. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #81
Want to read this subthread a little more closely... trotsky Nov 2013 #83
Wow..too funny skepticscott Nov 2013 #86
I see Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #90
Now that you've posted four or five times in this thread, I can't separate it from your screen name. Iggo Nov 2013 #92
I think those jury results fall under the Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #94
If I'd said anything like that, your post might make sense skepticscott Nov 2013 #95
Sure seemed to me you were saying that. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #98
Nice try skepticscott Nov 2013 #100
Here, read this again: trotsky Nov 2013 #102
Bwahahahaha! Epic Skinner smack down. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #107
Apparently his own words skepticscott Nov 2013 #110
Your whine is noted. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #106
Your whine is noted. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #104
believing in spiorits is not a skill needed for government transition. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #73
What I read you as saying is that believers have nothing to add Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #74
Belief in the supernatural is irrelevant to the orderly transition of government BlueStreak Nov 2013 #84
In other words, you agree with me that you believe the Mayor should shun certain groups Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #93
Or in other words, what you're saying... trotsky Nov 2013 #103
Notice how our friend skepticscott Nov 2013 #109
No. There is somply no reason to include groups because of their religious beliefs any more than BlueStreak Nov 2013 #105
Catholic priests in Britain stay away from political positions muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #34
In 1974, Pope John Paul II told Robert Drinan, SJ not to seek re-election to the US Congress Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #70
I'm guessing he doesn't want to hear from the crew that aren't taking MADem Nov 2013 #101
just keep religion out SummerSnow Nov 2013 #108
It’s Time to Play ‘Bill de Blasio or the Pope?’ muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #111
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