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Act_of_Reparation

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9. That's right, the city is full of Catholics...

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:26 PM

Nov 2013

...and they think that entitles them to advise de Blasio on filling his cabinet. It does not. End of story.

As New York's dominant religious demographic, Roman Catholics already have de Blasio's undivided attention, especially if he wants to run for reelection. At least with the Rabbis, Imams, and Pastors, he's seeking out input from religious minorities whose voices are not as readily heard over the bluster of majoritarian sentiment--I don't necessarily agree they should have been included in this specific assembly, but I agree with the logic of minority representation.

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Bill de Blasio under fire for omitting Catholic clergy from 60-member transition team [View all] trotsky Nov 2013 OP

Christian privilege, in a nutshell Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #1

This is a city full of Catholics. I think he can add a RC priest. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #8

That's right, the city is full of Catholics... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #9

There are plenty of progressive prieststo put on the team. this was a mistake. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #10

It doesn't matter if they are progressives or bokononists Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #22

They are not obligated. Donahue is a joke that wants an issue. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #23

I'm sure you'd like to dismiss him skepticscott Nov 2013 #88

I know thete are people whpo agree with him but he is a joke. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #89

Guess what? whathehell Nov 2013 #76

I've already indicated as much Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #78

It's a city full of atheists, too. Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #14

I agree. There should be represented. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #15

Why should atheists be deliberately represented? skepticscott Nov 2013 #35

Beccause they are apart of my city and they should be represented. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #36

The Russian mob is part of your city skepticscott Nov 2013 #37

I said they should be included because I believe they should be. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #42

Basing political decisions on "faith" and "belief" skepticscott Nov 2013 #43

Pretended? The things you say. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #44

And why will he have to rely equally greatly on atheist leaders? skepticscott Nov 2013 #45

ok well judge me all you want. Leave me out of it. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #46

I'd be happy to leave you out of everything skepticscott Nov 2013 #47

Oh Lord help me! hrmjustin Nov 2013 #48

Lol! rug Nov 2013 #49

Let us know when His help arrives, willya? skepticscott Nov 2013 #50

oh he did help me. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #55

Wow, you really didn't mean it skepticscott Nov 2013 #57

Are you asking me how I wo6ld handle my mayor calling on a different God? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #58

Lol. It's one of those okasha Nov 2013 #53

Yeah something like that. lol. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #56

I wouldn't want my mayor to rely at all on religious leaders. eomer Nov 2013 #52

Any mayor in this city who does not rely on community leaders is not a good mayor. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #54

You aren't going to argue this away with one-sentence tropes... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #59

Do you agree thatbhe has a right to pick religious leaders on his transition team? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #60

If you're going to take that angle, trotsky Nov 2013 #62

I asked a question. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #63

No it isn't. It's about establishing priorities and making plans to achieve them. rug Nov 2013 #61

As was said before Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #64

You're right, I was too broad-brushed about motivations behind charity of religious groups. eomer Nov 2013 #77

Sorry that you had such a bad experience Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #80

What I'm saying is that there is a movement called the faith-based initiative... eomer Nov 2013 #85

Religious leaders represent no part of the people? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #91

Should they be appointed to positions of influence in secular government... trotsky Nov 2013 #96

Should they be denied a part in forming the mayor's agenda because they are religious leaders? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #97

No, this is about getting special privileges simply by being a "religious leader." trotsky Nov 2013 #99

How would you know? rug Nov 2013 #18

I know Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #19

If you look closely, the people on the list are not there for their belief - or nonbelief - but rug Nov 2013 #21

I'm assuming you misclicked Lordquinton Nov 2013 #30

Your assumption is incorrect. rug Nov 2013 #31

So your Anti Atheist bias is showing Lordquinton Nov 2013 #32

Are you calling me a bigot, quinton? rug Nov 2013 #33

Don't you hate when you don't get the jury results you wanted? Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #39

Tell me about it. Isn't that what you use this forum for? rug Nov 2013 #40

Pick a side. It's really easier to have a conversation when you do. Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #38

Let me clear this up for you. rug Nov 2013 #41

How does he know there are no atheists on the list? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #65

I expect he means representatives of atheist organizations. rug Nov 2013 #68

OK, that makes sense Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #71

What a glorious hodgepodge...I'm sure they're all very focused on the transition BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #51

He could but he didn't. last1standing Nov 2013 #26

75% of the voters brought him there. I agree Donahue is a bigot and a jerk, and he does hrmjustin Nov 2013 #29

Yeah, Bill Donahue really represents no one except himself. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #66

Yeah he is a joke. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #67

That's a pretty lame joke. trotsky Nov 2013 #82

Guess we should ignore the Catholic League "at our peril" skepticscott Nov 2013 #87

Why should ANY religious leader speak on civil rights in a secular setting? rug Nov 2013 #2

Thank you rug. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #7

Wouldn't all of those be better served by the leaders of secular political/activist groups? Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #11

Better? Not necessarily. It depends on who it is and what is said. rug Nov 2013 #12

Are you saying religious leaders and people can not lead movements. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #17

No, I'm saying our public officials shouldn't give them special consideration because... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #24

I can agree with that. I doubt de Blasio will. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #25

MLK was the mayor of DC? Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #13

Coyness is not your most flattering attribute. rug Nov 2013 #16

In most if not all cities of any size, okasha Nov 2013 #20

The difference is between "can" and "must." last1standing Nov 2013 #27

Donohue's an ass. DeBlasio is consulting with those he thinks will best help him run the city. rug Nov 2013 #28

Why are there ANY spirit-worshipers on any transition team? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #3

Despite the questionable (at best!) need for religious leaders on a transition team, trotsky Nov 2013 #4

What the hell is a 60-person transition team anyway? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #5

"That is essentially a bureaucratic function, not a political one." trotsky Nov 2013 #6

Apparently, you believe that believers are ipso factp idiots. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #69

You could SAY that skepticscott Nov 2013 #72

No problemo Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #75

BWAH HA HA HA trotsky Nov 2013 #79

I notice that you did not apologize for implying that I lied. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #81

Want to read this subthread a little more closely... trotsky Nov 2013 #83

Wow..too funny skepticscott Nov 2013 #86

I see Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #90

Now that you've posted four or five times in this thread, I can't separate it from your screen name. Iggo Nov 2013 #92

I think those jury results fall under the Goblinmonger Nov 2013 #94

If I'd said anything like that, your post might make sense skepticscott Nov 2013 #95

Sure seemed to me you were saying that. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #98

Nice try skepticscott Nov 2013 #100

Here, read this again: trotsky Nov 2013 #102

Bwahahahaha! Epic Skinner smack down. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #107

Apparently his own words skepticscott Nov 2013 #110

Your whine is noted. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #106

Your whine is noted. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #104

believing in spiorits is not a skill needed for government transition. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #73

What I read you as saying is that believers have nothing to add Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #74

Belief in the supernatural is irrelevant to the orderly transition of government BlueStreak Nov 2013 #84

In other words, you agree with me that you believe the Mayor should shun certain groups Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #93

Or in other words, what you're saying... trotsky Nov 2013 #103

Notice how our friend skepticscott Nov 2013 #109

No. There is somply no reason to include groups because of their religious beliefs any more than BlueStreak Nov 2013 #105

Catholic priests in Britain stay away from political positions muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #34

In 1974, Pope John Paul II told Robert Drinan, SJ not to seek re-election to the US Congress Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #70

I'm guessing he doesn't want to hear from the crew that aren't taking MADem Nov 2013 #101

just keep religion out SummerSnow Nov 2013 #108

It’s Time to Play ‘Bill de Blasio or the Pope?’ muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #111