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Response to jody (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:57 PM

19. Wrong Jody, when you see all the facts.

jody posted: From 1994 to 2007, firearm number increased from 192 million to 294 million.
From 1994 to 2007, Firearms-Related Murder Rate decreased from 6.6 to 3.9.


You'd better sit down, jody; you cherry pick years 94 to 07 for violent crime & murder rates once they started declining from ALL TIME HIGHS... but you fail to say anything about how those rates got so high. I'll show you how.
.. in the 1960s, the national murder rate was about what it is now, ~5.0, while in between then & now it rose to 10. (you used gunmurder rates, simply multiply total murder rate by 2/3 for close enough gun murder estimate).
The violent crime rate in 1964 was 190, today 2012 it's 386, doubled from 1964.

year .. popu ... violcr/rate.. propcr/rate..murdrate... guns
1964--191,141,000-- 190.6------ 2,197.5---- 4.9 ........ ~75million
1965--193,526,000-- 200.2------ 2,248.8---- 5.1
1993--257,908,000-- 746.8------ 4,737.7---- 9.5 ..~194mill
2011--311,591,917-- 386.3------ 2,908.7---- 4.7 .........~300mill
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

factoid I found: The 1968-78 period saw an 85 percent increase in available gun stock and a 52 percent increase in the UCR (fbi) crime index rate.

So the evidence refutes your implication that an increase in total firearms led to the decline in murder & violent crime rates. Your implied premise can't be, since total firearms increased about 150% from 64 to 94 with a concurrent doubling of violent crime & murder rates, while from 94 to 07 total firearms increased by ~50% while violent crime rates declined about 35%, & murder rates halved.
The increase in rates while guns increased dramatically offsets the subsequent decline and any point you were trying to make.
Stop believing in the 2nd Amendment MYTHOLOGY.
MORE GUNS MORE LIES.

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