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Response to gejohnston (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:57 AM

63. I refer you to all of the research on the topic of substitution in means of suicides (or lack of it)

Please quote your sources. The body of work which shows that people do not, statistically, tend to substitute different means to commit suicide, but instead just don't commit suicide when thwarted in their choice of method, is huge.

You are wrong in your information, and there is ample data coming from multiple sources, not just the Joyce foundation about the change in suicides stats.

Use of guns in crimes did NOT increase in the UK. I don't know what sources you are using but they're wrong too.

Further, I saw an interesting article that shows that what are being counted as 'guns' in crimes in the UK have included some pretty general definitions -- like starter pistols -- which are not what I think most users here would consider really applicable to our discussion.

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