Gun Control & RKBA

Glaug-Eldare

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31. I'm loath to say you're dead wrong, but the fact that you say

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:41 PM

Dec 2012

"I could describe in detail what would happen" suggests to me that you could not. Attackers don't follow hard and fast rules, and there's no predicting what they will have, what their build will be, what the situation will be... There are too many variables for anybody to describe it before it happens. You can train to be prepared for such situations, but you can't predict them.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] darkangel218 Dec 2012 OP

Really? Go talk to some. sinkingfeeling Dec 2012 #1

I am one of the "some" darkangel218 Dec 2012 #6

Good for you. Your position shows good sense. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #12

I know 5 rape victims of various ages and none own a gun. sinkingfeeling Dec 2012 #15

Well, according to post #6, you just met another rape victim who does. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #24

I'm not the OP who stated 'cuz it will never happen' in reference to all rape victims. sinkingfeeling Dec 2012 #25

Actually, the phrase "a rape victim" was used in the OP. Not "all rape victims." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #28

nice try, but we can read english just fine. nt Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #34

Read it again. "Themselves" is plural. I did not get that she was only refering sinkingfeeling Dec 2012 #35

"Themselves" is both plural and singular depending upon how it is used. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #45

this is exactly like the BS about "assault" rifles and "semi" automatics... when you don't have a bettyellen Dec 2012 #58

No. It's plain English. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #80

As a rape "survivor"....I disagree...never owned a gun in my life. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2012 #2

Easy to do. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #3

Completely useless?? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #4

I really do sympathize, and I'm sorry for your ordeal. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #14

Self defense?? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #23

I understand. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #41

Poor little girls, Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #7

Yes, that's one possible outcome....of many. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #13

Yes. You are on the right track now. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #21

I wholeheartedly agree. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #65

You sound so absolutely positive that you are right. ... spin Dec 2012 #77

Good. points. And I agree. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #95

It's impractical for women to defend themselves with firearms? As reported a few months ago: AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #17

Yould be surprised how on guard and quik former victims are! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #26

I'm loath to say you're dead wrong, but the fact that you say Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #31

You are right there are alot of variables. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #36

Only if they are not willing to pull the trigger. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #50

Even the last one, of course, shows that even a 12-year-old girl can defend herself. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #63

. Prometheus_unbound Dec 2012 #5

Oh, it was just her boyfriend that raped her? Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #9

Really Uncool and Quite Ridiculous HangOnKids Dec 2012 #59

Sure seems that way to me. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #105

If the husband, boyfriend or relative atempts to RAPE darkangel218 Dec 2012 #10

The Poster Never Said Anything Of The Sort HangOnKids Dec 2012 #66

And the problem is what, exactly? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #19

Is this the "legitimate rape" exception we've heard so much about lately? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #37

Right after being attacked! Rocky888 Dec 2012 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #18

You think so? Speck Tater Dec 2012 #38

I KNOW SO!! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #42

Be careful. Certainty can be fatal. nt. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #47

Being tested under bizarre, unfamiliar conditions Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #43

And it's been explained repeatedly how that scenario was "fantasy" to use your favorite word. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #48

That was NOT a realistic test. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #75

Some people think your comment is an NRA talking point. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #62

Any pro RKBA post seems to be a bloody NRA " talking point " darkangel218 Dec 2012 #72

I was juror #3 on the jury that adjudicated an alert: NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #74

Apparently you post is being misinterpreted by some as meaning that all rape victims arm themselves. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #11

A poster in another forum here... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #16

I posted this OP as a reply to other posts who attack my right to defend myself. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #20

Sorry for wandering more than a little off on a tangent. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #69

Sometimes I find it hard to distinguish for myself the difference between a liberal and progressive. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #22

It's a very real division in the leftist community. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #68

Agreed. I think some Demos can remember: "Freedom of choice." Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #40

Demos? HangOnKids Dec 2012 #60

Just answerin'... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #90

Done Talking To You El HangOnKids Dec 2012 #97

Some people have all the luck. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2012 #104

While I'm sorry for what happened to you, how does this translate into allowing military grade villager Dec 2012 #27

It doesnt. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #30

Exactly. villager Dec 2012 #32

One of my hunting rifles is one of the ones some people want banned. PavePusher Dec 2012 #51

If you own it already, i would do nothing. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #53

How many hunting rifles do you have? There are some who want all rifles banned. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #55

I've been thru it twice, and I will never carry a gun again. Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #29

Thats your opinion and your right to do as you chose. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #33

not imposing it on anyone Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #39

Your perceived reality is not everyone elses reality. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #44

Please, please, please. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #52

I'm sorry about your trauma. I'm trying to help because I care. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #57

By victimising me again and telling me my rape is a fantasy?? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #61

The Poster Never Said Your Rape Was Fantasy HangOnKids Dec 2012 #64

He said "don't confuse fantasy with reality. Especially not fantasy fueled by anger and fear." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #89

the fantasy is that the gun would be used by, and not against her next time. bettyellen Dec 2012 #96

The Poster Was Talking About Her Fantasy About What She Would Have Done If She Had A Gun HangOnKids Dec 2012 #98

Your rape was NOT a fantasy. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #94

"Don't get a gun, get training in how to protect yourself." darkangel218 Dec 2012 #99

I'm done. Best of luck. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #100

never said they couldn't Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #79

You dont have the stats to prove it. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #81

Because a gun would somehow would have helped me? Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #54

Guns save lives every day!! even as a simple deterant! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #67

Ignorancen? Amedment? Deterant? HangOnKids Dec 2012 #73

Telling a rape victim that he is ignorant Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #86

Ignorance indeed. Enjoy life in your little bubble. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #84

In my own lil SAFE bubble! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #88

Something about truer words never been spoken. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #91

You don't have to convince me wryter2000 Dec 2012 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #71

Anybody can say anything on the Internet. 2ndAmForComputers Dec 2012 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #78

Enough people own firearms in this nation that the Constitution will not be changed. ... spin Dec 2012 #82

I'm a rape survivor thucythucy Dec 2012 #83

Over fifty years ago my wife used a gun to prevent her own rape. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #85

That's nice. Let's use rape survivors to muddy the waters about realistic gun control laws. Walk away Dec 2012 #87

Do you have any evidence that the OP is being 'used'? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #92

nonsense. bowens43 Dec 2012 #93

"Try to convince a rape victim not to arm themselves" ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #102

no one is trying to take away Your guns. I read it on the internet. It must be true. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #103