Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Number 2 could be considered a violation or an infringement... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #1
Could be. I think it should be tested. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #4
okay a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #5
Stop it. You are asking him to actually THINK about what he says... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #39
good point... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #40
You're a geek Bob. Why don't you design it. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #112
great... another thing ot add to the job stack... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #125
I had someone say that it was a violation of 2nd amendment rights rbixby Dec 2012 #156
I don't see a problem there... n/t a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #157
if its not a flintlock musket or pistol you have no right to have one, as we know msongs Dec 2012 #2
Yep, and the 1st amendment only applies to newspapers, books, and soapboxes - not the internet, kelly1mm Dec 2012 #9
The Internet, CDs, DVDs, films and TV are all regulated. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #78
it is? gejohnston Dec 2012 #83
well... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #126
And the Pirate Bay is just a figment of someone's imagination ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #193
Not bad, let me pick at it a bit: NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #3
Thanks Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #11
I think it's a thoughtful approach. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #15
my thoughts gejohnston Dec 2012 #6
thank you for stating this so much better than I did below. but, this mental stuff has to be careful Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #13
Suggestion atreides1 Dec 2012 #7
Number 2 is unconstitutional hack89 Dec 2012 #8
microchips. how sci-fi of you. define mental instability. GPS chip? kiss my ass. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #10
GPS chips are part of life now, like it or not Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #16
you do realize that most pros get in the field to try and understand their own neuroses/psychoses? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #19
This can't agree with this post more..... LeftofU Dec 2012 #24
No, a lot less gun violence. Think about it. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #46
There isn't a lot of gun violence to begin with. 300 million people, 100 million guns Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #206
Tell that to the families of the 30,000+ who lose their lives every year. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #208
Death is death, nice try at deflecting that fact. n/t Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #215
So what? We're here to talk about gun violence. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #216
I agree with all you say except vioalation of HIPAA Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #45
"....we risk losing our rights." Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #82
This entire thread is about not losing our rights. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #89
My whole point to you was they wouldn't have been stolen with this technology Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #93
How well did they work in the Mexican gun thing? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #26
Try to be positive here please. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #47
All the optimism in the world will not trump the physics ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #80
Quit being a naysayer. We have the technology. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #86
As a geek with some RF background, no we don't ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #97
Care to tell us how we don't or do you want to figure out how we do? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #98
The first problem is RF propagation through metal ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #149
Of course it isn't the best solution Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #152
Because you are trying to solve problems in society with a less than adequate ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #190
The underlying problem is easy access to firearms, period. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #191
Not true ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #192
Obviously, that easy access needs to be stopped. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #195
Access used to be much easier and we did not have these problems ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #197
I think you are wrong. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #198
relative to the population gejohnston Dec 2012 #199
Ive seen many post about GPS, I find it kind of funny. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #109
And if it won't function without being charged? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #110
You might want to check this out Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #111
And what do you do when the battery dies (or is removed) Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #142
I do nothing and neither does the gun. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #144
Only if its a phaser ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #194
Not my problem. The manufacturer would have to figure that out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #196
You haven't provided any solutions. Clames Dec 2012 #200
Right Mr. Negativity, except it will be you who loses his guns, not me. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #209
what you think is a solution is really gejohnston Dec 2012 #210
Are you saying a minority want safer communities? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #212
I'm saying the minority is motivated by gejohnston Dec 2012 #214
That is a good step in the right direction but would it be expensive to implement? JDPriestly Dec 2012 #12
Good questions Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #48
A couple of technical points ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
Yup, once again technical ignorance sinks another "reasonable" proposal. Clames Dec 2012 #22
The antenna is even harder. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #23
they bought cheap batteries from Radio Shack gejohnston Dec 2012 #25
Check your cellphone and learn about tethering. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #57
Still requires a transceiver. Clames Dec 2012 #64
Tsk, tsk! Such negativity. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #67
Sorry you find facts so troubling... Clames Dec 2012 #104
And your solutions are what precisely? Putting down good ideas? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #108
I don't advocate any of these measure. Clames Dec 2012 #129
or he has investments gejohnston Dec 2012 #131
So, you've got nothing. No surprise there. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #133
Nothing that would make you happy. Clames Dec 2012 #134
It's only a good idea... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #130
Please explain what would not work Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #136
Biometric sensors are getting better by the day Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #52
You are overestimating the state of the art with biometrics ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #79
Wireless power is already here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #90
Its not in general use and the EMI issues remain unaddressed ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #96
Not bad...however RegieRocker Dec 2012 #17
Screw the hunters. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #20
Screw you RegieRocker Dec 2012 #21
Only as long as law enforcement agencies agree to the same conditions in reference to the technology Remmah2 Dec 2012 #18
Agreed. Make the penalties for hacking unpalatable. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #58
Ban high cap flash drives! Remmah2 Dec 2012 #135
The GPS chips Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #27
Unless the chip has been disabled or the battery in it has died. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #29
It's already borderline possible Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #32
Good post thanks. We need more positive voices here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #60
Nothing is going to work every time, but if it works sometimes it could save lives Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #114
RFID chips gejohnston Dec 2012 #31
See above n/t Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #33
I'll have to think about some of those...the tracking thing sounds too Patriot Act to me. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #28
Thanks for the feedback. Lots of details to be ironed out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #62
Sorry, gotta disagree on most of this tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #30
OK let me respond Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #65
These coudl work tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #72
I agree that no measure will completely fix the problem. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #76
In reply... Spryguy Dec 2012 #123
Do you smoke pot? gejohnston Dec 2012 #124
Which of these AlexSatan Dec 2012 #34
None of them. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #36
These Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #70
But it is pretty likely AlexSatan Dec 2012 #71
Obviously a detail that would have to be worked out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #77
Once you prove that the technology will never fail hack89 Dec 2012 #35
Thoughts Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #37
Excellent points! I think we are now on the same page. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #75
I don't know about transmitting. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #88
Great stuff. I love it when people start to really think. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #95
No. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #38
I guess your cup is always half empty. What a shame. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #81
Notice How the Gun Clutching Crowd Will Call You Stupid After fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #41
to avoid the "it's already being done" gejohnston Dec 2012 #42
Exhibit A fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #43
meanwhile back in reality fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #44
ST posted suggestions tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #49
Exhibit B fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #50
And still no constructive input tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #51
Correct fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #55
Fair enough tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #59
Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #69
Work with me tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #73
Not Sure I Agree fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #143
Sorry, last night was a little hectic. Didn't get around to answering tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #164
I don't disagree with a thing you say. fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #165
Not all. Quite a few are very positive. I'm really encouraged by the response. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #101
Replace CCW with OPEN Carry HockeyMom Dec 2012 #53
I'm with you on that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #54
I live in Florida which now has a proposal HockeyMom Dec 2012 #56
why did Florida ban OC? gejohnston Dec 2012 #61
Let's try to stay on subject GE. We're getting good feedback here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #63
you said Floridians banned it because gejohnston Dec 2012 #68
It's not embarrassment, it's because it's none of your fucking business that I'm carrying Kennah Dec 2012 #148
Well, guess what? Public safety trumps that kind of an attitude. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #153
so public safety trumps gejohnston Dec 2012 #154
No. I think you know what I'm talking about. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #158
partly devil's advocate, gejohnston Dec 2012 #160
Well, I don't support the Patriot Act or Stop and Frisk. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #161
OK, gejohnston Dec 2012 #162
Well, there is more than one way to look at that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #163
This is an argument I have often with open carriers. I'm safer being anonymous. Kennah Dec 2012 #166
I'm wrapping my head around this idea... tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #66
I like this idea the best so far. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #92
It appears the GPS data would be available to LEO... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #74
Correct. It would be a defacto registration system for certain types of weapons. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #84
how would it do that? gejohnston Dec 2012 #87
Of course. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #94
many of those are businesses decided by those businesses gejohnston Dec 2012 #100
Details to be worked out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #103
Would this be applied to 10s of millions of semi-auto hand guns as well? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #150
Of course. Not much point otherwise is there? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #151
Then what would be the fate of revolvers? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #168
Nothing Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #169
Criminals would love your GPS idea. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #99
exactly what I was thinking about the GPS idea Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #102
Not bad ideas! roninjedi Dec 2012 #105
Why do you find the GPS tracking idea intrusive? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #113
so, would I have control over the tracking? gejohnston Dec 2012 #115
That's something that needs to be discussed. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #118
as long as the you remember to leave your gun home gejohnston Dec 2012 #120
Excellent questions roninjedi Dec 2012 #122
Firstly, I think we are a long way from anyone pounding on doors. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #146
point of living in a society? gejohnston Dec 2012 #147
Would all of these proposals oneshooter Dec 2012 #203
Maybe. What do you think? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #204
They are only citizens, just like the rest of us. oneshooter Dec 2012 #211
I'm OK with that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #213
most of it is good gejohnston Dec 2012 #107
The app would only be available to registered users. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #106
May I add to your list customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #116
I doubt anyone knew gejohnston Dec 2012 #117
I thought about adding that Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #119
first manufacture that does it gejohnston Dec 2012 #121
How are you going to make the GPS chip work again? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #127
if theives defeat your bank vault and alarm, gejohnston Dec 2012 #128
That doesn't seem terribly reasonable. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #132
I'm not following you? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #137
Only works when the gun is on the move... AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #138
Technology exists. Needs to be developed and fine tuned. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #139
No thanks on being the beta tester. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #140
Well, we have to choose as a society which direction we want to take. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #145
Someday, quite likely. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #141
all great ideas, the GPS thing would be the hardest/most expensive farminator3000 Dec 2012 #155
Thanks for the positive input and welcome to DU and the Gungeon. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #159
Cars are a lot bigger. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #177
you should google things sometime, it's fun! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #178
I saw that on the local TV news gejohnston Dec 2012 #179
GPS and Smart Chips are not the same. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #180
no duh, what's your point? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #181
You can't require something until the technology is actually available. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #184
how does two weeks sound? or go to ireland and try one farminator3000 Dec 2012 #185
How long is the battery in the gun good for? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #186
couldn't tell you. Ireland, laddy! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #187
Current battery technology will not build one that lasts long. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #188
Well Said ralfy Dec 2012 #167
What laws do you support that protect an individual's inalienable right to self-defense against jody Dec 2012 #170
Laws? Self defense is a natural right. Doesn't require laws. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #172
Doesn't matter. Laws will be passed to prevent another Sandy Hook Tragedy. We who support RKBA must jody Dec 2012 #173
I'm trying to find a viable solution to save lives. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #182
It's not viable though. And you know that. n/t Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #205
Care to explain why not? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #207
My only question is the technology Glassunion Dec 2012 #171
How about on duty cops are not part of this system. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #174
Fair enough. Glassunion Dec 2012 #175
Anonymous means anonymous. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #176
Bearing Arms doesn't exclusively mean guns. SEMOVoter Dec 2012 #183
I agree 100 per cent Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #189
my responses below - good suggestions btw samsingh Dec 2012 #201
Thanks. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #202
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»OK, here are some suggest...»Reply #1