Gun Control & RKBA

GreenStormCloud

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169. Set switch to semi-auto, aim at gunman, shoot.

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:06 PM

Dec 2012

If you are already set for full-auto and don't have time to switch aim for the gunman's lower abdomen and limit the burst to three rounds. That will stitch three holes in him, depending upon the range they could be close together or spread out in a vertical line on his body.

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The stupid media called the gun used in the Oregon Shooting Fest an "assault rifle" [View all] jpak Dec 2012 OP

an AR-15 isn't an assault rifle?? NMDemDist2 Dec 2012 #1

You will be corrected shortly jpak Dec 2012 #2

Yes it is... NewEngland4Obama Dec 2012 #4

That is not an assault rifle as defined below rl6214 Dec 2012 #70

Well the internet was designed for military communications. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #5

The AR-15 does not have selective fire. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #10

That's what I'm talkin' about!!!111 jpak Dec 2012 #11

Gee, what a huge difference ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #31

The difference may be small ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #34

it is still a fucking gun. mikeysnot Dec 2012 #107

The will to kill is what makes a murderer. Jester Messiah Dec 2012 #133

Important to who??? alstephenson Dec 2012 #128

Folks interested in accurate facts? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #130

Probably made a huge difference to the victims. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #43

Most M-14's were issued without a selector switch to otherwise allow full-auto. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #62

I realize this is off topic but I would prefer an M-14 to an M-16 NT Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #82

Depends upon where I am fighting. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #88

My reasoning is based on my friends who are still in the Army telling me Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #95

They are wrong. Marines in ww2 complained about the lack of stopping power of the .30-06 Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #110

sorry your wrong just us Dec 2012 #129

you have no idea what you are talking about backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #158

I didn't say 30.06 isn't powerful. Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #165

Same here. Someone who looked like me, but much younger, carried an M-14 for a while. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #89

M16s are fine unless they get damp or dirty DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #105

Apparently my AR15 didn't get that memo. It functions fine when it's wet and muddy. Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #111

Maybe they've improved in the past 40+ years DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #112

Whether they have improved or not, I think that AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #116

No shit DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #117

Everything I said is a fact. Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #164

Most guys didn't know how to handle the M-14 on full auto. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #90

With a selective-fire option, they were, of course, designed to replace the BAR. A heavier weapon AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #94

So, you're in the mall with your full auto M-14 - what firing technique do you use? jpak Dec 2012 #159

Set switch to semi-auto, aim at gunman, shoot. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #169

I thought that, according to pro-gunners, OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #186

It looks like you are starting to understand the problem with the AWB. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #188

Which undermines your claim that the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #189

one is a technical term gejohnston Dec 2012 #191

No. One is a legal definition. nt. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #192

You are confusing the two terms in #189. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #194

No, I am not confusing anything. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #195

it became a legal term after it became a gejohnston Dec 2012 #197

Bad post location. That was supposed to be responding to #189. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #199

which varies, but was created as a political term gejohnston Dec 2012 #196

If it is defined in law, it is a legal term, not a political term. nt. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #198

Actually an AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #14

There ya go - correct away! jpak Dec 2012 #16

The sad part here is that you knew the correct answer ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #22

SSSsssshhhhhh jpak Dec 2012 #23

If you have 11 minutes to spare watch this video Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #17

it isn't using the real techical term gejohnston Dec 2012 #45

Went quail hunting a couple of months ago with a .177 Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #161

especially when you break a tooth on a lead pellet gejohnston Dec 2012 #162

My buddy got one at about 40 yards in flight. Clean shot. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #163

Then what do the 'A' and the 'R' stand for? truebrit71 Dec 2012 #3

Armalite Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #6

Armalite Rifle jpak Dec 2012 #8

I did not know that..thank you! truebrit71 Dec 2012 #92

"To this day Colt's has a model designation whith the letters AR, which stands for "Armalite" NewEngland4Obama Dec 2012 #7

Armalite Rifle slackmaster Dec 2012 #79

ok larwdem Dec 2012 #9

No, just thanks to another nut. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #20

They also call the ammunition, "high powered". GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #12

Yeah it's not "high powered" - just standard issue NATO military ammo jpak Dec 2012 #15

Exactly. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #18

Yes, the Oregon Shooting Fest shooter was merciful in that respect jpak Dec 2012 #19

Tap dancing away as usual rl6214 Dec 2012 #71

He waits feverishly for these moments. But he doesn't dance away... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #103

5.56 mm is definitely unsuitable for deer hunting. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #21

but it's perfect for a mall jpak Dec 2012 #24

That would depend on your judging criteria. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #30

Lightweight, capable of carrying at least a 50 shot magazine ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #33

Most states prohibit hunting with more than a 5-round magazine. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #36

No it's designed to MAIM them. /nt TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #40

Yes - you are limited to 3-5 rounds when hunting ducks and deer jpak Dec 2012 #48

Keep whining. Clames Dec 2012 #56

You started off well, but seem to have ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #57

So you'd prefer the maniacs to reload, a la Virginia Tech? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #74

I have a 5 round magazine for my AR rl6214 Dec 2012 #72

Correct, that's why I don't own one, oldbanjo Dec 2012 #76

Chances are, your deer rifle is a direct decendant of a former military rifle. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #84

Your deer rifle was originally designed to kill people hack89 Dec 2012 #99

double barrel rifles perhaps? gejohnston Dec 2012 #100

True. Those are fascinating weapons hack89 Dec 2012 #101

Originally the Army issued a 20 round magazine with the M-16 Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #83

The VT killer used a pistol and several average-sized magazines... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #102

Why is hunting always brought up in a discussion about guns? Jenoch Dec 2012 #157

I wouldn't call it perfect for anything. it has always been a cartridge full of compromises. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #39

I'm not. I live in the Portland metro area, and I don't ever recall seeing such a sign at a mall. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #41

Here in Ohio, none of the malls I have been in permit carrying weapons of any kind. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #44

Here in Texas almost all stores and mall allow concealed carry. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #142

looks like the portland mall was a gun free area. that worked out well. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #143

A lot of crime and violence in malls? Really? OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #187

thats your opinion just us Dec 2012 #131

a .22 LR will kill a deer if shot placement is exact. Shot placement isn't always exact though trouble.smith Dec 2012 #138

Welcome to the dark side. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #13

And the douchebags get offended by verbage on cue. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #25

LOL!!!!!111 jpak Dec 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author CokeMachine Dec 2012 #49

what fire is this? gejohnston Dec 2012 #52

Opps wrong person CokeMachine Dec 2012 #54

not the slightest concern here for the murdered people. how nice nt msongs Dec 2012 #27

I also noted that with the OP. Thanks for pointing it out.nt Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #104

Yep. Like the terminology makes such a huge difference. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #127

Tone deaf to the point of being massively insulting. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #28

Hit the nail on the head jpak Dec 2012 #47

Laughing at the dead?? CokeMachine Dec 2012 #50

No - laughing at the gun nuts that apologize for these kinds of assault weapons jpak Dec 2012 #51

It's your story -- tell it any way you want. CokeMachine Dec 2012 #53

An AR-15 is an assault rifle ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #29

See post 10. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #32

Fuck post 10 and quibbling about definitions ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #35

Words have meanings. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #38

There's no such thing as 'close enough'. It's a boolean switch. It is either true or false. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #42

It's a huge difference in court and with the BATFE. Ask around. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #86

Doesn't a revolver do that as well? nt AlexSatan Dec 2012 #98

Yes, it does, if it's double-action. NT Straw Man Dec 2012 #113

re: "quibbling about definitions" discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #124

Definition of assault rifle rl6214 Dec 2012 #73

And if you own a lever-action .30-30, you can say exactly the same thing.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #85

Point taken. You did make the nomenclature debate look very small. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #37

Good catch. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #46

One of the first reports I heard called it an automatic weapon. ... spin Dec 2012 #58

Do you ever wonder whether those in the media are being disingenuous, e.g., when they refer AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #61

Of course they have been corrected but ... spin Dec 2012 #63

I wonder if there is a way to determine the number of CCW permits issued to those in the media. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #65

Usually information on who has a carry permit is unavailable except to law enforcement ... spin Dec 2012 #67

I agree that the identities would not be available upon request to a governmental agency. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #68

That's an interesting and informative link that you provided. ... spin Dec 2012 #115

It's an obsolete term now krispos42 Dec 2012 #141

oh well that's different.... mike_c Dec 2012 #55

Regular mass killings are going on in our country and the discussion is about what type of gun was Lint Head Dec 2012 #59

Far, far less "regular" than other types of murder, actually. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #64

I agree. All murders using a gun are despiciple. The type of gun or the type of murder is irrelevant Lint Head Dec 2012 #96

Correction: All murders are despicable... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #106

Many people feel the "A" in AR-15 stands for automatic but that is a misconception. ... spin Dec 2012 #66

How quickly they turn on their own! ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #60

They don't like hearing truth that conflicts with their religious beliefs. For example: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #75

Hey, you got one right rl6214 Dec 2012 #69

Should have just said artificial dick ejaculated into crowd. aquart Dec 2012 #77

Have penis-fallacy, will travel, eh? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #87

Fallacy or obvious metaphor? aquart Dec 2012 #170

Wow clffrdjk Dec 2012 #91

Why your obsession with the penis? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #108

I have no difficulty with obvious analogies. aquart Dec 2012 #167

Gun-controllers always "bring it up first," so to speak Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #171

Wow...an equal opportunity bigot. pop topcan Dec 2012 #134

Nothing equal about it. This is a MALE crime. aquart Dec 2012 #168

And that matters how to the dead people? /eom dballance Dec 2012 #78

One of the Victims.. Barely Clinging to Life Now.. Iggy Dec 2012 #80

The media pukes back out the same old lies and misinformation. ileus Dec 2012 #81

I don't care what they call it. The weapon used is not important. slackmaster Dec 2012 #93

maybe it was gejohnston Dec 2012 #97

Honestly... I gave up on the nomenclature/terminology thing ages ago. -..__... Dec 2012 #109

Except, the future isn't on your side: it's on ours. Which is why there is so much apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #118

Mm'kaay... -..__... Dec 2012 #119

Yep, it's going to quite okay when that day arrives. And it is: bank it. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #120

I can name that tune... -..__... Dec 2012 #121

Sure you can: when you have nothing substative to refute facts put to you, posting apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #122

My apologies... -..__... Dec 2012 #123

Very apt! That's the reaction most people who discover the facts aren't on their side have: apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #125

In your wildest wet dreams, fella. pop topcan Dec 2012 #135

So I keep getting told. The progress of the right side of history says otherwise. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #139

Just to add to this... DanTex Dec 2012 #136

Exactly right, and we saw this in the last election where even with all the resources apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #140

Not quite sure why it matters if its an assault rifle or just a specially designed human killing gun rbixby Dec 2012 #114

The reason discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #137

WIKIPEADIA HowHasItComeToThis Dec 2012 #126

safety course just us Dec 2012 #132

isn't that term kind of like an oxymoron? aren't all weapons either assault or defense depending on Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #144

I wonder what the people he KILLED with it would call it.... lastlib Dec 2012 #145

I would assume they had a higher level of intelligence than that. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #146

If it points at you and a bullet comes out, it's an assault weapon. lastlib Dec 2012 #147

Thanks for playing. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #148

Happy to help you understand! lastlib Dec 2012 #149

This is why folks are "paranoid" of an AWB. Behind that ban is a... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #150

We don't want a total ban--just ban the ones that kill people. lastlib Dec 2012 #151

How very Orwellian... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #154

More "penis" content. Is your sexuality secure? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #172

yes it's fine--I don't NEED any phallic symbols in my life. How bout you? lastlib Dec 2012 #173

No problem, here. You seem pre-occupied with penis. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #179

I never once mentioned penises. You are the one who brought it up. lastlib Dec 2012 #180

Eighteen CHILDREN killed in an elementary school--NOW can we start banning 'em??? lastlib Dec 2012 #166

Do you know what gun(s) were used in order to ban? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #174

At this point, I really don't care. If a bullet comes out of it, ban it. lastlib Dec 2012 #176

I really don't care about your nicey-nice. Get over your animosity.nt Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #177

Twenty children DIED, and I'm supposed to be cheerful??? lastlib Dec 2012 #178

So you just want to attack others here? Let's talk Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #181

Only if we fund it with heavy annual taxes on firearms and ammunition. lastlib Dec 2012 #182

that is how a lot of environmental projects are funded gejohnston Dec 2012 #183

Your priorities, please: Deal with school security, Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #184

you seriously think it only happens in the US? gejohnston Dec 2012 #175

Here we go tonight's flame bait from the Gun group. According to doc03 Dec 2012 #152

You fell for the trap. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #153

What a waste of time arguing over the definition of an assault rifle or weapon doc03 Dec 2012 #155

You are attributing too much logic to the name. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #156

Re: under the AWB the AR-15 was banned Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #160

It's a fucking assault weapon if you use it on a room of kids: Hissyspit Dec 2012 #185

Poor Jpak. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #190

I wasn't talking about jpak. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #193