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Response to PavePusher (Reply #82)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 06:37 PM

83. Again, you provide no cogent arguments to rebut mine

There are 6,000 robberies a day. Doubt it all you want but then go search for the stats.

Saying I'm wrong does not make it so. You have to provide stats, or studies to support your position.

Will there be a time when you can find some arguments and stats to support your position? I've provided them for my position.

So admitting that I'm not qualified to own and operate a weapon despite the fact I can easily buy one as an example of how it's most likely tons of people who get permits, get weapons and then get no training whatsoever on how to use those weapons makes me an ass in your universe how? Are most of those people dangerous given their lack of training? Yes.

No, I never said people need "Secret Agent" levels of training. Where you pulled that out of your ass amuses me. In fact, I never suggested in any of my posts that people who buy firearms should be required to have training. But now that you mention it, it seems like a rather sane and good idea.

We make people take a driver's test or driver training before getting a driver's license. That makes sense to most of us since granting a license usually means granting a person the legal ability to drive around a several thousand-pound vehicle that, if not operated properly, can kill or maim others.

But in complete repudiation of all logic we hand firearms to almost anyone who wants to buy them. Despite the fact they can maim or kill. And with those hundred-round magazines they can kill on an unprecedented scale some drunk or drugged-out idiot driving a car can't approach.

If every person who purchased a firearm was required to take those "few hours of instruction and a few hours/month of practice" then I'd be a lot more comfortable with so many people having guns. BUT THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GET ANY TRAINING. Any idiot with a clear background check and enough money can buy a gun. Then they can play John Wayne at the first instance of a perceived threat.

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