Gun Control & RKBA

Dog Gone at Penigma

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28. here you go for those UK compared to US suicide method statss

Reply to Dog Gone at Penigma (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 06:54 PM

Dec 2012

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-statistics/us-methods-suicide

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-statistics/england-wales-methods-suicide

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods

and on greater lethality than other methods, and the impulse versus long term planning with suicide

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/firearms/reliability

and

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods

I don't have the stats at my finger tips, but there appear to be a lot more botched suicide attempts by hanging than are reflected here, when one looks at other sources, making it much less reliable than firearms.

There are plentiful sources indicating firearms, as distinct from other methods are more often an impulsive decision for suicide, not just in Switzerland. Do you all need me to look that up for you as well, or can you find the Swiss studies for yourselves?

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Ted Nugent whines on about tools....... [View all] Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 OP

Ted Nugent is a tool. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #1

who cares about Nugent gejohnston Dec 2012 #2

"...without access to lethal tools..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #3

elbows . . . montanto Dec 2012 #4

Hmmm... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #5

No, it really doesn't, because we all understand the meaning of "lethal tool" Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #6

Too bad you can't. n/t Clames Dec 2012 #7

I just don't see the difference... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #8

I can't believe you are serious. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #11

I let my words stand on their own. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #12

Then basically you are saying everything is a lethal weapon Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #13

While there is probably a way... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #15

Seems many gun-controllers like turning sound argument into Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #17

You imply that guns are the only lethal tools.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #9

yes, you are wrong 'of course' Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #18

"...the wrong people, people who commit murder suicides." There are already laws... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #27

Why do people insist on abusing life saving devices? ileus Dec 2012 #10

You mean life taking devices. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #14

Humans have used tools Berserker Dec 2012 #16

ropes are not as efficient as guns. Rocks are not as efficient as guns. The result is fewer murders Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #19

when did rope replace guns in UK? gejohnston Dec 2012 #20

No, it's because that was the conclusion a national study found, which was supported by other Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #22

I have, gejohnston Dec 2012 #25

National studies (plural) Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #24

here you go for those UK compared to US suicide method statss Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #28

they find a correlation, but a link showing cause gejohnston Dec 2012 #29

I see you missed Berserker Dec 2012 #34

Considering that Ted Nugent, who montanto Dec 2012 #21

Your agreement or disagreement doesn't change the facts. Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #23

The only fact in the OP is montanto Dec 2012 #26

I would argue that the NRA cares, because he is very prominent about representing them Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #31

That's a riot coming from you. Clames Dec 2012 #37

and here is an article on a series of studies that address both the impulsivity unique to firearms, Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #30

they are saying the suicide by gun is higher gejohnston Dec 2012 #32

actually, yes they do Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #35

no it doesn't gejohnston Dec 2012 #36

I don't care if you like the facts; you clearly do not know the facts Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #33