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Response to Dog Gone at Penigma (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:13 PM

22. "Grass roots groups?" That's the trouble with the gun-control outlook: It isn't grassroots...

Few members, few legislative or other programmatic efforts, poorly-coordinated approaches, a sound donor base, etc. These are the characteristics of grassroots groups. Gun-control proponents have depended on MSM to carry its water; now MSM is in decline and is pulling back from making controversial (I would say gratuitous) stands for fear of offending yet another constituency. (In my hometown of Austin, TX, the daily Austin American Statesman now declines to make endorsements in the presidential race, for largely the same reasons.)

"organized and extremely well funded." What group would turn such down? Gun controllers?

My guns are not "lawless." They reside in their locked containers with clean criminal records. They are also not patriotic (I really don't think they give a shit about that or any other abstract concept). And that is the problem with your prohibitionist outlook: You find it difficult to delineate between the hated object (guns) and their possessors (people). They have become one and the same. And that is what captures the thoughts of "gullible" prohibitionists.

The rest of your contentions will be dealt with, I'm sure.

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