Robbers starts shooting in restuarant, one is killed by CCW customer.

[gejohnston]

34. couple of problems

Stolen guns or illicitly sold firearms are a problem in civil society. Register weapons and ballistic signatures. Work with law enforcement (oh wait, aren't you the guys who championed teflon, cop killer bullets).

Yes they are, but registration does nothing. If ballistic signatures would actually work, other countries would be doing them. Teflon simply coats the bullet from wrecking the barrel as the hardened bullet goes out, the harder metal wears down the rifling. We did not champion "cop killer bullets" because of irresponsible sense of rights, the problem was a poorly drafted law written by ideologues and ignoramuses that would have banned common hunting rounds like the .30-30. Any rifle round will defeat bullet resistant vests.

In 1982, NBC ran a television special on the bullets (against the requests of many police organizations) and argued that the bullets were a threat to police. Gun control organizations in the U.S. labeled Teflon-coated bullets "cop killers" because of the supposedly increased penetration the bullets offered against ballistic vests, a staple of the American police uniform. Many erroneously focused on the Teflon coating as the source of the bullets' supposedly increased penetration, rather than the hardness of the metals used. A common misconception, often perpetuated by films and television, is that coating normal bullets with Teflon will give them armor-piercing capabilities. In reality, Teflon and similar coatings were used primarily as a means to protect the gun barrel from the hardened bullet; the coating itself does not add any piercing abilities to otherwise normal ammunition.
The round in question could not, in fact, penetrate a police vest. Kopsch pointed out in a 1990 interview, "adding a Teflon coating to the round added 20% penetration power on metal and glass. Critics kept complaining about Teflon's ability to penetrate body armor... In fact, Teflon cut down on the round's ability to cut through the nylon or Kevlar of body armor."

In other words, it is the (pick your favorite inane right wing myth) of the gun control advocates.

Insurance is necessary because too many gun owners consider themselves cowboys and are irresponsible, then every once in a while a positive story (such as this one) comes around and every cowboy cloaks himself in it. You are transparent. Insurance is necessary to cover the many who are injured and killed by the irresponsibility of those whose behavior you support.

For example? It is extremely rare to non existent. You are either misinformed or are projecting.