Gun Control & RKBA

ThatPoetGuy

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13. I never questioned the freedom to own such things,

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:54 PM

Nov 2012

just the claim that owning such things is inherently progressive.

A reminder of the statement I was responding to: "as citizens we are progressive in our actions of buying, owning, and carrying firearms."

Your suggestion that I was attacking anyone's "freedom" is false, and it's offensive. Buy your guns, own them, carry them, but don't claim that doing so is inherently progressive.

I await your apology for making the false claims about what I said. An honest person would apologize.

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Is it true that Republicans oppose gun control while all or most Democrats favor gun control? [View all] AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 OP

As a party we need to work on a more progressive 2A stance...as citizens we are progressive ileus Nov 2012 #1

I agree that as a party we should work toward a more progressive stance... ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #3

+100 Well said. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #4

give away your boat. it is not information. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #5

You mean "A sailboat in every backyard" doesn't apply any more? Crap. dumbledork Nov 2012 #7

I'm not that progressive, but I often share it with others. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #10

There is nothing progressive about consumerism of any kind. oh horse hockey -- Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #14

There is a big difference between consuming what one needs and consumerism. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #23

not if you don't qualify the word with some kind of adjective perhaps Rampant Consumerism, or Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #30

OK, I'll go with mindless. That's what it means to me. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #47

yes, I can agree with all that but, (and I hate to be pedantic about it) it needs to be Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #48

OK, let's agree on Mindless Consumerism Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #50

Oh - I am agreeing with you about Consumerism as Wiki defined it just capitalize the word -- Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #52

I don't know how you Jenoch Nov 2012 #46

And that is a huge misconception which got us into this mess in the first place. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #49

consumerism... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #17

Consumerism is not a path, but a destructive societal condition. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #26

That is different and they qualified the word and they are changing the Pure Definition of the word. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #32

I'm aware of the origin of the word. Who are "they"? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #33

they = wiki. and never mind the rest. I am not going to argue semantics or even the lack of Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #34

It's appalling the notion of the freedom to own such things... Clames Nov 2012 #6

I never questioned the freedom to own such things, ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #13

Don't hold your breath waiting for something you don't deserve. Clames Nov 2012 #40

the expandtion of individual freedoms and liberties gejohnston Nov 2012 #8

If "buying, owning, and carrying" guns is progressive, ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #15

I never said anything about progressive gejohnston Nov 2012 #16

With you 100%. ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #25

So the things we own define our ideology. rrneck Nov 2012 #9

The type of " paranoid and propagandistic thinking " the NRA touts ? orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #11

Posession of them may mean nothing, but prohibition of posession means everything. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #18

We can -- and I suspect we will -- discuss that elsewhere. ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #24

Exercising Constitutional rights is a progressive action. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #28

Yes, I see your point ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #37

Once again... Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #45

There is nothing 'liberal' or 'progressive" about gun control... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #31

Way to change the topic. ThatPoetGuy Nov 2012 #35

Probably. Certainly it is liberal. Progressive would Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #38

Hus views "evolved" from strong pro- control to less so. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #44

Sorry your question is lop sided let me help ,is that all or most republicans or republicans ? orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #2

As If These GOP Politicians are Relevant to the GOP Today fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #12

Self deleted my post as I didn't know what I was talking about in relation to the OP Kaleva Nov 2012 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #20

I think you have it confused with the Hughes Amendment gejohnston Nov 2012 #21

Yes. That is what I did. Kaleva Nov 2012 #22

72 Democrats signed an amicus brief in support of Heller vs DC hack89 Nov 2012 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #29

Excuse me, but Jack Brooks was a DEMOCRAT, not a Republican derby378 Nov 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #39

Hey, no problem derby378 Nov 2012 #42

Yep glacierbay Nov 2012 #41

Well, I'm definitely opposed to nichomachus Nov 2012 #51

where is that in The Constitution? Driving is not a right. It is a Privledge. Any Night Court Judge Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #53

Are you trying to create a straw-man? Are you using an analogy to falsely imply that those who AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #54

And 100% of the Democrats who Endorsed Our 2012 Party Platform fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #55