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In the discussion thread: Man shoots four co-workers, two fatally, at Fresno poultry plant [View all]

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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:15 PM

8. Coroner: Death toll in Calif. plant shooting rises to 3

GOSIA WOZNIACKA
The Associated Press
Published: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 at 4:00 p.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.

FRESNO, Calif. — A parolee who killed two people and wounded two others on Tuesday at a California chicken processing plant where he worked moved methodically between his first three victims, putting a handgun against their head or neck before pulling the trigger, police said.

Lawrence Jones then shot 32-year-old Fatima Lopez in the back as she tried to flee then put the gun to the head of Estevan Catano and pulled the trigger but was out of bullets, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said.

Jones, 42, then went outside the Valley Protein plant, where he reloaded his gun, shot himself and died later at a hospital, the chief said ...

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20121106/WIRE/121109815

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65 replies	Author	Time	Post
Man shoots four co-workers, two fatally, at Fresno poultry plant [View all]	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	OP
Mental health care should be made available to all people free of charge	slackmaster	Nov 2012	#1
+	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#2
Yes, indeed	Eleanors38	Nov 2012	#3
+100000 nt.	glacierbay	Nov 2012	#4
That will never work	4th law of robotics	Nov 2012	#16
Because of the stigma, many people do not avail themselves of mental health care	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#41
It's not always the stigma, HD. Often people who are mentally ill are in denial or simply unaware...	slackmaster	Nov 2012	#46
Going Postal...	rrneck	Nov 2012	#5
With a 4 shot derringer?	krispos42	Nov 2012	#6
"Clattering machinery at a chicken-processing plant provided all the cover Lawrence Jones needed .."	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#7
Coroner: Death toll in Calif. plant shooting rises to 3	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#8
I wonder what he was parolled for? n/t	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#9
... Jones, who had worked at the plant for 14 months, had an extensive criminal history,	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#10
so now I wonder where he got his gun from n/t	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#11
they're easy to get: the country is awash in them	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#12
not legally,	gejohnston	Nov 2012	#13
Of course, but that does not answer the question.	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#14
What laws would you support to change that?	oneshooter	Nov 2012	#17
mandatory registration and background checks for private sellers	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#42
Why thank you struggle4progress I didn't realise that you had changed your name.	oneshooter	Nov 2012	#57
I'm not allowed to answer? Sorry.	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#59
not the same thing	gejohnston	Nov 2012	#60
Wrong.	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#64
Wrong again	glacierbay	Nov 2012	#65
Proof that gun buy-backs don't work. nt	Remmah2	Nov 2012	#40
Are you serious?	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#18
Totally. I mean, it was illegal for him to buy one, right?	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#19
It was also illegal for him to murder people.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#22
Clearly then...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Nov 2012	#23
Well, they vary from state to state.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#24
How many people who have	rrneck	Nov 2012	#25
Like a need to kill oneself? Otherwise, I dunno, you tell me.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#29
Like a need to defend one's self.	rrneck	Nov 2012	#32
Oh right, I need to defend myself, so I'll go buy a gun.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#36
There are those	rrneck	Nov 2012	#38
Right, the "heat of the moment" buyers.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#39
Actually, no we don't.	rrneck	Nov 2012	#43
My facile solutions?	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#47
The problem to be solved with a gun	rrneck	Nov 2012	#49
Agreed, the idea is to survive the encounter.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#51
Planning an avoidance of conflict are best	rrneck	Nov 2012	#53
Very true. It's an imperfect world we live in, which isn't all bad.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#56
this doesn't strike me as very logical	gejohnston	Nov 2012	#50
I didn't mean to imply that at all.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#52
wait ten days or commit a federal felony?	gejohnston	Nov 2012	#54
It was a joke. nt	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#55
Why inconvenience everyone for the possible actions of a few?	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#26
Why inconvenience people? Why not?	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#30
They always have the option of going to Arizona and getting one the same day.	gejohnston	Nov 2012	#33
"Why not?" Lulz doesn't sound very liberal to me.	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#34
Just what does that have to do with this?	clffrdjk	Nov 2012	#35
I didn't bring up any law.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#37
So I which post prior to #24	clffrdjk	Nov 2012	#45
My bad. A little confusing as I was refferring in #24 to this thread	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#48
They wouldn't! The laws are useless and pointless.	Starboard Tack	Nov 2012	#31
;)	Atypical Liberal	Nov 2012	#27
This message was self-deleted by its author	AnotherMcIntosh	Nov 2012	#61
Quick! Make murder even more illegal and cut funding to mental health services!	4th law of robotics	Nov 2012	#15
For what he did, you want to take my guns away?	GreenStormCloud	Nov 2012	#20
Where the hell...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Nov 2012	#21
Time to ban high-cap derringers	ileus	Nov 2012	#28
COP	aikoaiko	Nov 2012	#44
Nothing new under the sun.	oneshooter	Nov 2012	#58
My brother has a stainless one.	ileus	Nov 2012	#62
I think the markert for such a BUG is now filled by baby Glocks and other micro pistols	aikoaiko	Nov 2012	#63

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