Gun Control & RKBA

glacierbay

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90. But the individual is not told that they are being put on the list

Reply to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #79)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 12:52 PM

Nov 2012

they are not there, nor are they represented to argue their addition. That's not due process. It's all one sided. Is that fair? Not in the America I grew up in.
The right of the accused to face their accuser is one of the sacred principles of our Judicial system, so is the presumption of innocent until proven guilty. Do you think that's happening with this terrorist watch list?

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Many Gun Owners are Hidden Criminals and that's WHY I Support Gun Control Laws [View all] fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author glacierbay Nov 2012 #1

That's ALWAYS Your Way fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #4

Clearly you have an issue. Take it to meta. I hope this one is locked too. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author glacierbay Nov 2012 #9

Despite the subject line krispos42 Nov 2012 #23

OK glacierbay Nov 2012 #30

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #63

I think people were assuming it was a protest re-post. krispos42 Nov 2012 #89

What laws, exactly, would you propose? Discuss. shadowrider Nov 2012 #2

Like... fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #12

Good response with no snark. If I may respond: shadowrider Nov 2012 #26

Good Conversation fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #100

What should be fixed is the fact that you're put on that list glacierbay Nov 2012 #101

Good fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #102

What you are approving of is giving government the go-ahead WinniSkipper Nov 2012 #116

Can't write your own stuff huh? rrneck Nov 2012 #34

Personal Attack and Nonresponsive fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #37

Well. at least you wrote that. I guess. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #48

Nonresponsive fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #60

Okay, rrneck Nov 2012 #81

I guess you don't want to make a Point.... fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #110

See post #22. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #115

What points...your post was a personal attack ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #106

Non Responsive fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #108

Fully responsive ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #111

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #113

A reply krispos42 Nov 2012 #93

Pot Smokers Unite. You May Be a Criminal. White Collar Criminals Beware. They are coming for Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #3

There is some merit to improving the current system. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #5

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #14

Be careful before you so rapidly agree ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #17

You're welcome and thanks. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #61

No answers to anything... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #105

The subject line is a broad brush smear. rDigital Nov 2012 #6

Owning Something is NOT the Same Thing as BEING Something fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #19

Semantics. Surely, You see the glaring prejudice in both cases. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #25

Sandy romany Nov 2012 #8

Welcome and why would that be? discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #13

Interesting strategy ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #10

I agree glacierbay Nov 2012 #11

It only underscores the desperation ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #21

Bull Sh€t fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #16

This coming from one of the louder and nastier trolls here? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #18

Off Topic and a Personal Attack fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #27

Such a delicate flower ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #28

Personal Attack, Nonresonsive and Off Topic fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #45

What is a hidden criminal? OneTenthofOnePercent Nov 2012 #15

Many Voters are Hidden Idiots and that's WHY I Support Voter Control Laws. nt jody Nov 2012 #20

Being an Idiot is NOT a Crime fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #29

as you are a good example. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #36

Personal Attack and Nonresponsive fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #39

I control my arms. I suggest you do the same. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #43

Actually fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #65

just exactly who is this We of which you speak? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #71

No, you won't. Clames Nov 2012 #114

"Gun clutches" rl6214 Nov 2012 #118

Alert or be gone fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #119

I don't alert on idiotic posts rl6214 Nov 2012 #120

Well on that we agree fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #121

Lucky you ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #38

lol!!! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #46

"Being a hidden criminal is NOT a Crime" and absent an intelligent definition you prove my case. nt jody Nov 2012 #42

Explain rrneck Nov 2012 #22

Unresponsive. What a shock. rrneck Nov 2012 #103

The lunatics may have finally taken over this asylum. DanTex Nov 2012 #24

indeed, it would appear that the Lunatics are, in fact, doing that. Good Luck! Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #40

Reccing because there is no Unrec function in DU3 slackmaster Nov 2012 #31

Nonsense fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #33

If this thread was really about a need for more effective background checks you could have chosen... slackmaster Nov 2012 #72

You Choose Your Title to Support Your Argument which I Did .... fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #83

You cannot compromise the rights of law-abiding people in an attempt to stop criminals. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #32

You Mean Like Scrutinizing Those on the Terrorist Watch List...before I have to fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #35

You trust the terrorist watch list? Do you even know how many Democrats were on it rDigital Nov 2012 #49

See Previous Points Made In Thread Above fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #58

No points were made above ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #107

See Post 12 fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #109

I suggest you find a qualified source first ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #112

So you would have denied Ted Kennedy a gun? His name appeared on that list. hack89 Nov 2012 #51

No fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #57

How did he get on the list in the first place? hack89 Nov 2012 #62

I Support That fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #68

no there isn't gejohnston Nov 2012 #74

Are you unfamiliar with "probable cause"? holdencaufield Nov 2012 #75

There is no judicial review - show me where a judge is involved. hack89 Nov 2012 #77

See Post 1 fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #82

It was self deleted - can you paraphrase? nt hack89 Nov 2012 #84

My Apologies fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #85

But that doesn't answer my question. hack89 Nov 2012 #87

Ok....I get you think I am wrong fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #88

Lol, and you claim people here spout RW talking points Union Scribe Nov 2012 #117

Do you support due process? hack89 Nov 2012 #52

Sure fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #55

What about the process to get ON the list? hack89 Nov 2012 #59

Not Without a Better Appeal Process fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #66

Why are they put on the list in the first place w/o due process? glacierbay Nov 2012 #67

It Goes To A Judge fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #70

How do you know that? glacierbay Nov 2012 #76

Before? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #79

But the individual is not told that they are being put on the list glacierbay Nov 2012 #90

We Agree fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #92

Why an appeal after the fact? glacierbay Nov 2012 #94

You know this how, exactly shadowrider Nov 2012 #78

Read Glacierbay's response on the topic fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #80

there are no terrorists on the terrorist watch list gejohnston Nov 2012 #73

No one should suupport the "Terrorist Watch List". Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #95

This list smacks of J.Edgar Hoover and Sen. Joesph McCarthy. glacierbay Nov 2012 #97

gun control MrYikes Nov 2012 #41

oh, Mr - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #44

What if they were only shoplifitng a Toblerone from a convenience store? rDigital Nov 2012 #47

No exceptions ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #50

The Death Penalty though? This a big tent, but not that big. Authoritarian murderers are rDigital Nov 2012 #53

Apparently, not only welcome ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #54

I see this too. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #69

It really never takes very long ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #56

You forgot this. glacierbay Nov 2012 #64

so MrYikes Nov 2012 #86

You Make a Good Case fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #91

But it does exist. glacierbay Nov 2012 #96

Uh,,What? MrYikes Nov 2012 #98

Sorry glacierbay Nov 2012 #99

Gah! rrneck Nov 2012 #104

If I were to get this into law MrYikes Nov 2012 #122

The rank injustice would make it so. rrneck Nov 2012 #123