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Tuesday Afternoon

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109. Wrong. Every since Ug clubbed Uhooga in that cave so long ago there has been
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:25 AM
Oct 2012

death and destruction. Unfortunately, Weaponry is here to stay.

I want to live in a Nation that is as knowledgable as it can be on ALL subjects and unfortunately that includes Weaponry.

Maybe, you want to put your head in the sand where unicorns poop rainbows and fart cotton candy.

'Stand your ground' promotes violence [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
Who wooda thunk that n/t doc03 Oct 2012 #1
Frendenberg was drunk and had a history of domestic violence gejohnston Oct 2012 #2
Shhhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #3
upset with an opinion writer gejohnston Oct 2012 #4
This opinion happens to be backed by science. DanTex Oct 2012 #12
the law viewed them as justifiable gejohnston Oct 2012 #13
LOL. We were just talking about all the false statements you make! DanTex Oct 2012 #15
which you will not provide evidence of gejohnston Oct 2012 #21
Evidence: DanTex Oct 2012 #25
are you serious? gejohnston Oct 2012 #38
So you are claiming ignorance? DanTex Oct 2012 #53
I make shit up? gejohnston Oct 2012 #61
LOL. Good times, gej! DanTex Oct 2012 #70
shall we count them? gejohnston Oct 2012 #73
Yes, please count them. LOL. DanTex Oct 2012 #76
do you? You seem to have a problem with vocabulary gejohnston Oct 2012 #78
Wait! I thought you were going to go back and count hidden posts! DanTex Oct 2012 #80
not the same thing gejohnston Oct 2012 #81
Not the same as what? DanTex Oct 2012 #82
your point? gejohnston Oct 2012 #84
My point is that you are lying once again. DanTex Oct 2012 #89
gun fourm in DU2 gejohnston Oct 2012 #90
Well, you are lying. What else would you call the claim that over half my posts were deleted DanTex Oct 2012 #92
history, good night troll. gejohnston Oct 2012 #93
Your citations do not say what you claim ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #19
Actually, they dealt with both CD and SYG. DanTex Oct 2012 #34
As another strong black man, I am calling BS on this story for the third time on DU ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #7
And that is the point of the OP ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #9
The piece in the OP ignored and misstated things from the DA's report in an effort to support her ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #16
Wow! "Gun control ... falls hardest on the poor and minorities." DanTex Oct 2012 #18
Then you have not been listening and have little appreciation for the history on the matter ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #20
Yeah, and the Republicans are the "party of Lincoln". DanTex Oct 2012 #27
I see some, and GLBTs and women who are choosing to own guns for self defense out of necessity ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #31
By and large, people for whom gun violence is a reality of life tend to favor DanTex Oct 2012 #35
That changes when they are personally targeted and realize there is no help other than themselves ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #37
A very libertarian argument. DanTex Oct 2012 #41
Pragmatic, not libertarian ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #102
We not only rarely prevent crime, but we are not responsible for an individuals safety glacierbay Oct 2012 #104
Blinded by ideology perfectly explains you and every other Brady Campaign hanger on. Clames Oct 2012 #44
Your views are insular and illogical, as right-wing ideologies tend to be. DanTex Oct 2012 #50
You just keep lying to yourself. Clames Oct 2012 #83
one thing. gejohnston Oct 2012 #85
Well that was interesting... DanTex Oct 2012 #87
Another worthless and predictable response from you. Clames Oct 2012 #119
for example? gejohnston Oct 2012 #106
Yes, it certainly does. And some gun-banners agree... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #23
The right-wing zealots doing the pushing the lax gun laws. DanTex Oct 2012 #42
As opposed to 'progressives' like Ronald Reagan (Mulford Act), William Bennett, and Mike Bloomberg? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #45
Yes, but overall, gun control advocates are overwhelmingly progressives, whereas DanTex Oct 2012 #55
Do you think poor minorities in urban areas should have the same RKBA as other Americans? Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #46
I think that all Americans have the right to live in a society that is not plagued by gun violence. DanTex Oct 2012 #54
Most Americans *do* live in a society that is not plagued by gun violence. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #57
most excellent post. bravo and well said. thank you for saying it. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #58
LOL. Apparently, gun fanatics find pseudointellectual nonsense to be irresistible! DanTex Oct 2012 #60
when you are able to see the bigger picture perhaps you can join in on the intelligent conversation Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #62
Do you guys ever say anything that is true? DanTex Oct 2012 #59
speaking of cherry picking gejohnston Oct 2012 #63
Yes, El Paso is a great example of cherry picking. DanTex Oct 2012 #68
so are your examples. gejohnston Oct 2012 #71
guns are not the only factor!! finally. you get it. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #64
until it stops serving it's purpose gejohnston Oct 2012 #65
I know. but, for just a minute, it was nice. Let me enjoy the after glow a moment longer. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #67
I've said that many times. DanTex Oct 2012 #66
from now on YOU can NOT call me a gun Fanatic because I have NEVER said such - Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #69
OK. If you agree that gun availability is a significant contributor to gun violence DanTex Oct 2012 #72
kind of like saying only criminals commit crime. Your statement is a DUH. sorry but really Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #74
Well, we were almost there... DanTex Oct 2012 #75
yes You will get less GUN crime but, will you get LESS crime? No. Not according to statistics - Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #86
Gun crimes are far more lethal than non-gun crimes. DanTex Oct 2012 #94
all the more reason we need to address the underlying issues wouldn't you agree? Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #96
Of course. And also the guns, wouldn't you agree? DanTex Oct 2012 #98
yes, gun education needs to start early. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #100
And there's the dodge.... DanTex Oct 2012 #103
Wrong. Every since Ug clubbed Uhooga in that cave so long ago there has been Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #109
Do you guys normally overlook inequality, poverty and corruption? Or just when convenient? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #77
Have you been paying attention at all? DanTex Oct 2012 #79
Cherry Pick the whole world? USA, Mexico, Haiti, and Guatemala are the only countries I know Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #88
are you being deliberately obtuse? I ask in all honesty and sincerity. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #95
No. You? DanTex Oct 2012 #99
I am not the one having issues with gejohnston. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #101
Yes- and I think gun availability is *far* down the causative list for violent crime. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #105
Have the "right?" No. SHOULD they live without ANY Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #115
Wrong on several counts. We have a violent culture Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #116
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #52
I understand, ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #36
I have mixed feeling about duty to retreat and commensurate force requirements ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #39
While the duty/requirement to retreat has never been a good one, ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #40
Why would a duty/requirement to retreat ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #48
Preferred certainly, mandatory not so much ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #97
Practice vs theory. ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #110
The practice ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #111
All I have is what has been reported in the news over the years. ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #112
And the NRA's candidate buying campaign had nothing to do with it ... Right? 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #113
To the best of my memory, ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #114
Correction ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #117
depends on the states gejohnston Oct 2012 #118
Care to be a lot more verbose on your basis? ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #120
Sure, not that I believe it will matter ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #121
so you don't believe that a man has a right to use deadly force against an intruder in his own home? trouble.smith Oct 2012 #49
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #51
you wanna answer the questions? trouble.smith Oct 2012 #56
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #91
........... trouble.smith Oct 2012 #107
I don't know why I engage here; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #108
............... trouble.smith Oct 2012 #124
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #125
They're upset because not everyone agrees with the theory Piazza Riforma Oct 2012 #10
I agree with you to a point gejohnston Oct 2012 #11
Should I have to leave my house if someone threatens me in it? PavePusher Oct 2012 #17
If he is IN your house then use what means you have to defend yourself Piazza Riforma Oct 2012 #26
I do not believe that the door would have held Fredenberg back for more than a few seconds ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #33
Being a bully or criminal doesn't pay like it used to. ileus Oct 2012 #5
Even when I had my rifle, I would have gone into my house and called the police. Piazza Riforma Oct 2012 #6
There are any number of points that day where violence could have been avoided ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #22
Never did I say he had to accept "his beatdown". I DID say that by getting involved with her he did Piazza Riforma Oct 2012 #30
Never said you did. The comments in the home town paper were an interesting read ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #32
I have to admire your determination ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #8
"The law is "a solution that had no problem" Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #14
"...he walked into Harper's garage." Uh, how is this stand your ground? nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #24
It is not, its classic Castle Doctrine ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #28
The author lost me on the second sentence slackmaster Oct 2012 #29
Pretty bad when an author can't tell the difference between castle doctrine and SYG. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #43
Factual accuracy is strictly optional for gun control advocates friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #47
When you have the Truth on your side you can be kind of sloppy with the truth. 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #122
criminal prosecutors --> conflict of interest mrf901 Oct 2012 #123
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