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Response to gejohnston (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:31 AM

27. gejohnston it is not my

 

responsibility to teach other police agencies on what service pistols to use. I was just a simple plain clothes detective hunting down bad guys. I was very comfortable and felt very confident with my model 36 .38 cal, I did have to use a few times in my career and it worked in my favor. My pistol does have a heavy 9 lb pull in double action, but only 3 lb in single action (hammer cocked back). But it was only a 2" barrell so accuracy is really not the best at ranges past 10 yards either way. I was always able to empty 5 rounds within 2 seconds into the 5x ring man target at 10 yards. I used to practice with it more than the yearly required pistol qualification.

As far as the NYPD and their risk management required 12 lb trigger pulls is due to lack of training and subsequent lawsuits. Too many cops nowadays are not properly trained with pistol discipline, their main weapon, and put their bugger hook on the bang switch too quickly. When you draw, you don't need to put that bugger hook on the bang switch unless the bad guy is pointing a gun at you. Lack of good training has lead to the NYPD 12 lb trigger pulls in my opinion. I was a training officer for a few years and I would always watch new guys/gals when doing a felony stop, guns drawn. I always had to tell them, take your finger off the trigger and put it on the slide like you were trained. They would respond, "thats not we were trained"! Not to be sexist, but gals always put their bugger hook on the bang switch after drawing without an immediate threat. While a training officer, I had two AD's by my trainies. Both women. One time was a felony stop, all code 4 handcuffed and she accidentally shoots a round into the ground about 3 foot away from an arrested suspect on the ground. The second one was when we were in the locker room gearing up and she fired off a round while holstering.

My point still is to remove all guns from the populace that don't need them. I admit that it looks like NYPD needs more training and 4 or 5 lb triggers to get better accuracy, that still doesn't change the need for disarmament!

Wow, it is really past my bed time. Although, I do enjoy discussing these important issues facing our society!

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