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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:44 AM

3. If somebody is sucidial, they will find away to kill themselves.

I see nothing wrong with a gun rental at a range. It allows people to try out a gun, and if they like it, they can buy it. If they don't, its a lot cheaper than buying it and having to resell it.

Even if a range didn't rent guns, people could just as easily buy a gun, go to the parking lot and shoot themselves. I know some gun ranges require you to bring a gun, in order to rent one, but that is a policy I disagree with. The first time I rented I gun, I didn't have any, but I bought one shortly after because I liked shooting it.

If you want to lower suicide, we need to fix the damn economy, get people gainfully employed, improve mental health services, I don't think changing gun regulations will have a major impact.

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83 replies	Author	Time	Post
Gun Range Suicides [View all]	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	OP
How exactally do you propose	Reasonable_Argument	Oct 2012	#1
Of course not with perfect accuracy.	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#19
No nt	Reasonable_Argument	Oct 2012	#20
I hope that's a joke, but I doubt it is.	Glaug-Eldare	Oct 2012	#21
It would prevent the depressed guy from using the range to kill himself. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#22
How?	Glaug-Eldare	Oct 2012	#27
Thought so.	Glaug-Eldare	Oct 2012	#58
Waiting periods work for suicide and rage. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#61
actually no	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#65
And we are to take your word for it?	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#67
how do we know he was depressed? perhaps he had terminal cancer and was in terrible pain	trouble.smith	Oct 2012	#32
Then he should do it in his bathtub at home.	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#62
No, it only reflects badly on the person who creates a horrific mess for others.	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#68
Lame.	trouble.smith	Oct 2012	#76
Yes!	Francis Marion	Oct 2012	#75
People need to stop victimizing gun ranges	ileus	Oct 2012	#2
If somebody is sucidial, they will find away to kill themselves.	Travis_0004	Oct 2012	#3
Methods of Suicide	Remmah2	Oct 2012	#4
Volcano?!!??!	EX500rider	Oct 2012	#36
Since you are so concerned.....	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#5
I showed that in the post	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#23
you showed nothing	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#33
Please point/bold/highlight/something for those of us too blind to see.	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#34
The 19 Jobs Where You're Most Likely To Kill Yourself	Remmah2	Oct 2012	#6
So what efforts do you suggest?	Atypical Liberal	Oct 2012	#7
By requiring a 24 hour advance reservation. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#24
Hey, that would suit me fine!	Atypical Liberal	Oct 2012	#30
Are you the same blogger "Baldr Odinson"?	Atypical Liberal	Oct 2012	#8
This is a new one, I haven't seen this one before	rl6214	Oct 2012	#16
Yes. I'm Colin Goddard too. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#25
I don't know who Colin Goddard is.	Atypical Liberal	Oct 2012	#29
His name is Legion! Or Spartacus....	friendly_iconoclast	Oct 2012	#60
I'm Spartacus!	holdencaufield	Oct 2012	#71
Me and the wife are Spartacus	Kennah	Oct 2012	#80
" Renting guns to suicidal people is wrong and every effort should be made to stop it. "	4th law of robotics	Oct 2012	#9
why do something that will hurt your business?	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#10
So, you attack (in advance!) the intellectual means of reasoning	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#11
Ban suicidal humans!	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#12
Kill 'em! It's the only way to prevent the suicides.	Kennah	Oct 2012	#79
Well...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#81
Well of course. We have to give them due process. And then kill them.	Kennah	Oct 2012	#82
I have heard (although I've never been there) that one of my local ranges	petronius	Oct 2012	#13
The ranges in the Seattle area all went with the rule	ManiacJoe	Oct 2012	#14
Good grief...what a stupid rule. n/t	Grave Grumbler	Oct 2012	#15
Since there have been no more suicides since the first two,	ManiacJoe	Oct 2012	#17
There you go. Trying to solve the problem. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#26
Do you believe there can be such a thing as a bad restriction?	Glaug-Eldare	Oct 2012	#28
I think restricting sound suppressors is wrong. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#63
That will work until...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#31
Most range owners have zero desire for a suicide on their range	aletier_v	Oct 2012	#18
Isolated incidents. So rare they're not really worth discussing much.	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#35
Only callous and biased gun owners think that the loss of human life is acceptable. nt	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#64
Loss of human life may not be acceptable ...	holdencaufield	Oct 2012	#72
Who said that the loss of life is acceptable?	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#78
Hope the Store Had Insurance	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#37
How so? Under what laws or moral principles...	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#38
Sure.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#39
Did they rent to a mentally unstable person?	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#41
Do they have...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#42
The Answer Is	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#45
In some places...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#47
Nonsense	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#49
How any of that...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#57
the plaintiff's lawyer would	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#44
They Are	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#46
Nonsense	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#50
but the law	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#51
Law Does Not Allow Them to Rent to Someone Who Appears Intoxicated	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#52
didn't say he was drunk at the time	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#53
So, require that the ranges not rent to someone who appears suicidal.	AtheistCrusader	Oct 2012	#70
A sale or rental...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Oct 2012	#48
Tell It To A Judge or Jury	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#40
Answer my question....	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#43
Ok	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#54
So, you're dodging. Quite predictable from you. n/t	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#55
Yawn	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#56
Of course they're responsible.	mikeb302000	Oct 2012	#66
that is not how the law works	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#69
I rent a car from Avis ...	holdencaufield	Oct 2012	#73
At the range where I shoot, you don't rent a firearm unless you come in with one.	Simo 1939_1940	Oct 2012	#59
Some would consider it	Francis Marion	Oct 2012	#74
My opinion is, to trash this	geckosfeet	Oct 2012	#77
This message was self-deleted by its author	Union Scribe	Oct 2012	#83

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