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Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:16 PM

ManiacJoe (5,583 posts)

1. Depends on how you are measuring "gun violence".

For example, according to an article I glanced at this last week, someone made the claim that since 1950 of all the shootings where three or more people died all but one of these events took place in gun-free zones.

While that measure does point out a major problem with gun-free zones, it is not necessarily an accurate measure of gun violence "in general".

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34 replies	Author	Time	Post
Looking for statistics - edit [View all]	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	OP
Depends on how you are measuring "gun violence".	ManiacJoe	Sep 2012	#1
Okay, let's use death by gunfire as "gun violence"	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#2
Given the relatively small number of gun-free zones	ManiacJoe	Sep 2012	#3
"Death by gunfire" is too general ...	spin	Sep 2012	#8
Not to over think this but...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#9
Link?	petronius	Sep 2012	#4
Do you mean mass shootings in public places, or all shootings?	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#5
Let's use all deaths by gunfire	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#6
Then the answer is easily, "non gun-free" zones.	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#7
A hearty thanks for this thread.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#10
Gun free zones are target rich environments	shadowrider	Sep 2012	#11
Well done. This thread is a discussion generator. nt	rrneck	Sep 2012	#12
Shouldn't gun free zones be entirely free of gun violence?	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#13
I think so, either that, or it is a misnomer, an oxymoron type of phrase.	Tuesday Afternoon	Sep 2012	#14
You won't find them on such an obvious and poorly framed question.	Clames	Sep 2012	#15
I'm gonna say non-gun free zones since so many rednecks get drunk	ileus	Sep 2012	#16
Try GOOGLEING.	Remmah2	Sep 2012	#17
Try spellcheck	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#18
Try punctuation.	Remmah2	Sep 2012	#24
Thanks for the kick	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#25
The most gun free city there is , Washington DC	former-republican	Sep 2012	#19
Meanwhile, El Paso, TX averages 15 murders per year, (10 year average)	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#22
And then you look here	former-republican	Sep 2012	#20
There is more gun violence in non-gun-free zones.	JustABozoOnThisBus	Sep 2012	#21
The question is a difficult one.	krispos42	Sep 2012	#23
Often rates are discussed...	beevul	Sep 2012	#26
I don't think it's accurate to use "an estimated 280 million guns"	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#27
Perhaps that 8,000,000 figure...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#28
No, I think you have compare incident to incident	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#29
for example???	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#30
The # of incidents with deaths outside gun-free zones vs # of incidents with deaths inside	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#31
Why would this be...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#32
"More accurate" to what end? N/T	beevul	Sep 2012	#34
Comparables	DWC	Sep 2012	#33

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